Reneé Rapp

[00:00] This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking your pockets before putting clothes in the washer? [00:09] Oof. Enjoy your freshly cleaned and completely destroyed earbuds. Yeah, checking first is a good plan. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. [00:29] Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Boy, we have... [00:33] a superstar, a pop star, an incredibly talented, wonderful woman named Renee Rapp joining us today. We're so excited to have Renee here. We are going to talk about so many things. We're going to talk about falling in love. We're going to talk about standing up to bullies. We're going to listen to her new music, which is incredible. Her record Bite Me is coming out at the end of the summer, and her new single Leave Me Alone is out now. It's so good. And we're going to talk about what [01:03] During these times, it's fun and funny, and I can't wait for you to listen. And we start these podcasts the same way all the time. We try to get our guests, friends or fans or people who want to give me a question to ask our guests. [01:19] on the line and today we have cara de la vene beautiful actress model director [01:28] gal about town, a total delight. And Cara is joining us from Paris and she's going to tell me what to ask Renee. Hi, Cara. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Summer is almost here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. What do I mean by almost? Well, you can't get a summer blockbuster delivered, but you can get a block of cheese. A cabana, that's a no. A banana, that's a yes. A day of sunshine, no. A box of

[01:58] Yes, Uber Eats can definitely get you that. I'm very excited to use Uber Eats this summer. I'm going to order... [02:04] Grapes. [02:05] And then I'm going to put them in the freezer and then I'm going to have frozen grapes and feel very classy. [02:10] and very refreshed. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details. [02:31] Hello, Cara. Hi. Hi. How are you? It's nice to meet you. Have we never met? [02:40] I mean, I feel like perhaps I've walked past you at an event. And I've never stopped you and hugged you. [02:47] Not yet, but now. Like, how rude. [02:51] Like, I feel like I just, I adore you and I'm such a huge fan and I feel like I know you so well because... [02:57] I think Parks and Rec probably saved my life during COVID. So like, I feel like I know you. So if I'd seen you, I would have run up to you and, [03:05] Probably kiss your feet if I'm going to be... [03:07] Real with you. I just got back from work. I'm just getting into my hotel room, and then I will sit down. Of course. Take your time. We have people doing these Zooms from restaurant bathrooms, from set, from cars. Oh, perfect. I'm talking to Amy Poehler. I'm on her podcast. My girlfriend's a big fan. She's freaked out. She doesn't understand. I would tell the camera, but she's naked.

[03:37] That's exactly how I imagine your life. We love the podcast. Yes, I know. We do good hang. We are good. We're the best hang. Okay, so we're talking to the great Renee Rapp today. [03:47] Who? [03:48] Exactly. Just my favorite, your favorite. And I know my favorite. Can you tell me how you guys met? [03:54] I literally don't even think we've known each other that long, but... [03:58] through my old manager was like, [04:01] you know, I always want to be behind the camera in as many ways possible. And I think music videos is a great way of doing that. And he was like, [04:08] Would you be interested in directing a video for Renee Rapp? And I was like, [04:13] Yeah, obviously, let's talk, though. Let's get on the phone. And what I realized about Renee, again, for someone who is... [04:19] nearly 10 years younger than me. She is... [04:23] I mean, a consummate professional, her voice can... [04:27] just like break me to the floor while also like lift my spirits. But also when you've worked with someone who's a musician, who's also an actor, [04:36] And who's so brilliant and just can like take direction, take notes. [04:40] Be spontaneous. [04:42] Um, [04:44] Yeah, she's so good at that. Okay. And then my question to you is, what do you think I should ask Renee today? [04:52] There's a lot I know about her, but I want to hear what you think. [04:55] I had so many questions that I wanted to ask. And then I realized a lot of people won't understand the question. So. [05:00] for everyone the questions that I wanted to ask her [05:04] Number one was... [05:06] If she was a drag king,

[05:08] So not a drag queen for the people that don't know that drag kings are dressed in drag as a man. What would her drag name be? [05:15] Very important. What would yours be? Okay, let me think about this. Well, I'm going to think about the old trick where you sometimes take [05:25] the street you grew up on and your first pet name. So mine would be Bradley Algonquin. [05:33] hot I can imagine the dance you're doing too so my guy I think would probably be a professor like some kind of professor [05:43] Hot. With a mustache. With braces, a bow tie? Yeah. And he's just like... [05:49] He's just kind of externally telling you to get your work done. Obsessed. [05:56] Disciplinarian. Professor Algonquin. [05:59] I can't claim this one, but someone, a drag king is called Clit Eastwood, which I just think is just... [06:06] come on incredible I wish I'd made that up it's not mine I don't know what mine would be but I'm not the one being asked questions and the other question would be oh oh [06:16] If Renee had to be in a girl band, [06:19] like the Spice Girl, it doesn't matter how many people of female people, [06:24] singers rappers whoever dead or alive who would it be honestly that's the hardest question i think oh that's such a good question renee is going to be so happy that we talked today i think because you know these are always surprises so fuck renee any excuse to talk to you emmy can i thank you you're the best anyone oh my gosh no i love renee

[06:46] I'm so glad. [06:50] Okay, well, just come back next week and we'll just talk about whoever that is. I will. I'm going to find a job to do so I can just come and talk about it. Yes, please. I would love that. That's how it works. Okay. Thank you so much for your time. Bye. [07:07] This episode is brought to you by Subaru. Most cars just stick to the asphalt, but hybrids can be found on dirt roads, back roads, and everything in between. Because the Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid and Subaru Forester Hybrid were built for adventure. With up to 597 miles per tank in the Crosstrek Hybrid and 581 miles in the Forester Hybrid, love goes the extra mile in the Subaru Forester Hybrid and Crosstrek Hybrid. Visit Subaru.com slash hybrid to learn more. [07:37] Maximum range based on EPA-estimated combined fuel economy and a full tank of fuel. Actual mileage and range may vary. [07:44] This episode is brought to you by Ultima Replenisher. You know what no one has time for? Over-the-top wellness trends. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for taking care of yourself, but being healthy should make your day better, not harder. And that's where Ultima comes in. With all six essential electrolytes, Ultima provides balanced hydration that fits right into your day. Available in delicious plant-based flavors with no sugar, calories, or carbs. Shop Ultima on Amazon or in-store at Target and Whole Foods Market. [08:14] This episode is brought to you by Burlington. Here's a question for you. When was the last time you stopped by a Burlington? Oh, they just do coats? That's what you're going with? Well, they got way more going on. Sure, you can pick up a coat, but you're probably going to leave with a dress, sneakers, brand name beauty, something for your dog, and a candle you didn't know you needed. At Burlington's prices, you can just get it all. You don't need to sacrifice style for savings.

[08:44] you should pop by. It's better than you remember. Find a store near you at Burlington.com. [08:52] Woohoo! Renee, I'm so happy you're here. I'm so excited to be here. I've been listening to your... I've been lucky enough to listen to your... Can we listen to your song right now? Please. Okay. Of course. I love this song. Thanks! Is it weird to listen to your music? I mean, I'm forced to listen to it a lot. So, no, it's not weird. Is this your first single? Mm-hmm. [09:19] It's fun. It's so good. [09:22] It's like a Runaways Joan Jett. Yeah. Oh, 100%. 100%. I know I like it. And it's very crunchy. Thanks, dude. Thanks. I'm partial. It's so good to like music. 100%. I really like your music. Of course. Thank you. It's very sweet. I really like your music. I'm glad that you like it. It would be shit if you hated it. Yeah, I wouldn't tell you. [09:47] You know what I mean? But but it's this record is so good. Congratulations. We're going to talk all about it. How are you today? How are you feeling today? Good. Renee Rapp. Yeah, I first met you without you meeting me. So I guess I should say I first saw you on Tina Fey's phone. [10:07] Oh. [10:07] Love. I mean, that's kind of like a sick... [10:11] thing for me to know that that's where you first seen me. And like, oh my God, that's so cute. I saw, Tina said,

[10:18] Listened to this woman sing, basically, and played a video of you singing. And we both kind of watched it together in awe, as I imagine a lot of people do when they first hear you sing. Thanks. [10:31] And... [10:32] You were... [10:33] I think you were already hired, maybe, at that point to do Mean Girls, which was... [10:39] Give us a sense of what time that was. What year was that? Probably 2019. Right. And you were how old? 19. [10:48] Dang. And [10:51] What do you remember around that time about getting that part? I was just like so entitled. I was just so entitled. I was just like... [11:00] Yeah. [11:00] Okay. [11:02] Sure thing. You were like, I got it. Nailed it. Yeah. Do you remember the audition? [11:07] Yeah, totally. What was it like? [11:09] I auditioned a bunch of times. And when I first auditioned, I remember I was like, I need to dress really girly. And at that time in my life, I was like... [11:20] I mean, I was dressing horrifically, first of all. What do you mean? Like an infinity scarf, a legging. Like I was like my leg. And you're telling me those are not cool? No, no, no. Like I love a little like small infinity scarf, you know, like tiny knit. Yeah. But that was just like, I don't know. I was just dressing crazy. I was dressing crazy. I'd also like just started making money. So I discovered like athleisure. And I was like a musical theater person who was moving to New York.

[11:50] You guys all wear these little fucking Lululemon skirts. Right. Right? [11:55] Right. Assholes. I got to get one. So I was dressing crazy. So I was like, all right, I got to dress the part. Mm hmm. [12:02] And I looked fucking insane. I just looked so terrible. And I remember being like, I can't walk in these heels. And this skirt is like making my ass sweat so crazy. I have to go home. And I did a terrible, terrible first audition. It's true. The wrong clothes can fuck you up. Yeah. Big time. Fuck you up. I, I, I, [12:23] Ugh. Hated it, hated it, hated it. So then the next audition I went back... [12:29] changed clothes, wore some pants, skinny jeans. Hey, that was nice. And I looked less bad. Mm-hmm. [12:38] Did better. What did you sing for your audition? [12:41] Do you remember? [12:42] No, but I remember that an ex-boyfriend picked it out for me. Yeah, because I was like, he was a musical theater major in college and just smarter than I was. And... [12:57] He was like... [12:58] Oh, I think I said something. I was like, I'm going to sing like a Beyonce song. And he was like, what the fuck for? He's like, cool. But at that time, it wasn't like... [13:08] you know the girls weren't doing pop like i think they are now yeah and um he gave me something fuck i don't remember he was like sing something from hms pinafore literally he's like pirates of pen hands color dream coat exactly exactly so i remember i did that and then after that

[13:27] The auditions I went back, I just had to sing songs from the show. And that was way fucking easier. Yeah. Because I hate having to make decisions. Written by the great Jeff Richmond. Let's give it up for Jeff Richmond. I love Jeff Richmond. Who's an incredible musician and Tina's husband and my friend for many years. He's so talented. There are no two people cuter. It's kind of outrageous. They are a power couple. It is kind of outrageous. And I am not the biggest fan of musicals. Sorry. I like them. I don't love them. That's okay. I'm not either, to be fair. I love the Mean Girls music. I love the music. It's really fun. Yeah. [13:57] really fun. What was it like doing a Broadway show? And how many shows did you end up doing before COVID hit? [14:03] I mean, it was super fucking hard. [14:06] Um... [14:08] I don't know. I did like six and a half months. So I did like half of what would have been my like contract. Um... [14:15] Just did a ton of fucking shows. You just do literally so many. Holy shit. And the hardest part of your day is at the end of your day. Absolutely. Actually, do you know what? No, the hardest part of my day was the mental... [14:26] Game of waking up and waiting the entire day. Yeah. And planning your entire life. [14:33] around doing a show at night. And I want to, I know you identify primary, you know, like you identify gay. Yes. We're going to talk about that. No, no. Rude. Yeah. But you identify as a musician and singer in many ways more than an actor. Right. Is that true? I think so. Okay. But. [14:54] I do want to just talk about the Jimmy Awards. Please. Because. Please. For people who don't know what the Jimmy Awards are, what are they for people who have never seen them? The...

[15:04] Most intense [15:07] um hormonal um scary yeah scary really intense and i don't say that about other people i mean that more about like myself like i was a fucking terror i didn't make a friend the entire week so they're a high school yeah competition yeah okay so yes actually so what it is i'm like you went way in yeah no it's a high school theater competition [15:30] Uh, all across the country. Yes, correct. And everyone kind of competes. And a lot of like very famous people have been discovered through the Jimmy Awards, you being one of them. [15:41] Do you feel like you were discovered because you did the Jimmy Awards? Like, in many ways, were you... I feel like... I mean, it definitely, like... [15:47] Thank you. [15:48] It definitely gave me, like, leverage. Yeah. Because I was like... [15:52] just kind of an asshole. And I was like, you guys are going to pay attention to me whether you like it or not. Yeah, you were really feeling... When I watch your performance on it, that is definitely what I feel is this vibe of... [16:05] Um... [16:06] I've arrived and I'm ready. Mm-hmm. [16:08] You felt that then? [16:10] like, like, [16:11] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Have you always been this kind of person, Renee? Like if you had some kind of inner compass that like tells you. [16:22] You have? Yeah, definitely. Where do you think that comes from? I literally have no idea. Like from inception... [16:30] to now same way same way like always and don't get me wrong like I think my parents have those qualities absolutely but like

[16:38] Even before, you know, when you're like a little tiny thing and you start to sort of like take on parts of your own personality and as those become, you know, [16:49] what they are. I was [16:51] Always. [16:52] Like, just, like, super driven, crazy, like... [16:57] little bit angry and like ready to go. That's, and do you think you like, [17:03] And [17:04] This is a little woo-woo, but do you think... [17:06] you've lived before? Do you think you've been here before? Because that's a very, you know, it's like, did you think you arrived with some, like, are you a reincarnated [17:14] No, there's no way because I wouldn't have come back. I'd be like, I'm not doing this shit again. I'm like, I'm not doing that shit again. No, this is your first time. You're so centered. Gotta be. From a little from a young age. You know who you are. Definitely. I think I'm just very like. [17:31] I just always been very feisty. Yeah. But also when I was like... [17:35] Being born, I guess. When I was being born. And like in my mom. When I was there being born. When I was like. [17:43] Yeah. Shooting out. Yeah. My mom, like, chose my first and last name to be – well, okay – [17:50] arguably chose my first and last name to both have like ours yes she was like alliteration just in case she um wants to be a pop star like before i was born which is so fucking head ass and is so conceited and i'm obsessed with the way she did it i'm like thank you god she gave you a pop star name just in case because renee rap is a huge pop star name it's a really good one and renee rap is a huge pop star

[18:16] Do you remember the moment when you sang or when you watched people realize that you had an exceptional voice? You have an exceptional voice, beautiful voice that can do so many things. And everybody says like, oh, my kid's a good singer. You know, my daughter loves to sing, whatever. But there is always a moment where... [18:35] Somebody sings and everyone looks at each other and says, holy shit, she's really good. Do you remember a moment where you or someone locked in and knew, you know, your ambition and talent were matching? It didn't match for a very long time. Really? No, I don't think. Well, are you hard on yourself? A hundred percent. But also my parents were never like. [18:59] Mike had the fucking star. Yeah. They were like, [19:02] Like I would, I would like come off of like a stage or even like I played a lot of sports growing up, come off the field, like court, whatever. [19:09] And they'd be like, you know where you messed up? And I'd be like... [19:13] I'm five. This is crazy. This is crazy. But also my dad has relative pitch. So he's very musically inclined. What does that mean relative pitch? So basically, like, [19:23] If I was flat, [19:25] He'd know. [19:26] Like, he has a really good ear. Mm-hmm. He has a really, really good ear. So, he was always, like... [19:32] you know where you were flat, right? So I was like, fuck. So they were really getting you trained. Like, are you trained? Or did you ever do any musical training? I did, like... [19:44] I was in choir. Yeah. I was in choir. I took piano lessons when I was a kid.

[19:51] But they give me panic attacks. I got very stressed. And I started crying. So I stopped. Good. Got rid of that. But... [19:59] I feel like choir was how I learned... [20:03] kind of how to like [20:05] blend so I don't want to say like no I have no training what were you were you alto what were you in your I was an alto in choir you have the hardest lines thank you you have the hardest lines yeah because altos sing like they're far away from the choir uh-huh [20:21] And singing a different song. Yes. Oh, 100%. They're just like, and I will tell. Absolutely. Yeah. And the Sopranos are, what were you? Were you Sopranos? I was a Soprano. Congrats. I was a Soprano. Thank you. But also, Sopranos are bitches. Like, if you're a Soprano, everybody's like, oh. They're like, oh, congratulations. You get to sing the song. Right. Exactly. The Altos have to sing some weird dirge that is underneath the song. It's not even, of course. It's like, you know, the All I Want for Christmas is, what the fuck? Yes. [20:51] line okay what is it it's just like okay you sing the i don't wanna live for christmas there is just one thing i need and i like it's the same shit the whole song and that's exactly what being an alto in a choir is and then occasionally having to memorize the most [21:16] difficult line of music that has nothing to do with what the song is couldn't be left it is so yeah confusing and you know what happens when those altos go away

[21:26] The song falls apart. Falls apart. You have, like, a very shrill, pitchy soprano and, like, tenor boys who are, like, not at all developed yet. Yes. Singing... [21:35] Like shit. Yeah. The altos are the bottom of the pyramid. The altos are like when you do the cheerleader pyramid, if all those bottom gals, [21:44] decided to just leave what do you what do you do when the bottoms are gone we always say that what are you gonna do when the bottoms are gone nothing to top nothing to top no one to top if the altos are removed that's what my girlfriend needs me that's it right she needs me it's interesting what i'm realizing is i'm asking you these like yeah technical questions but i'm realizing how you come to singing is very intuitive it's like what you're feeling in the moment totally so do [22:13] hate can't do it don't like them don't like them makes me too anxious [22:18] Puts me in my head. Anytime I've ever done... [22:22] a warm-up before a performance, [22:27] I have done so shit. That is so interesting. I can understand that because then it becomes very important. Yeah. And I'm like thinking about it and I'm thinking about the like different technicalities or whatever my voice. And I don't. That's not how I learned. [22:45] How to sing. So I don't think... [22:49] Whenever I try and do that, it's kind of like going back on the actual thing that I know how to do. How did you learn how to sing? How would you describe it? Listen to Beyonce. Try to match it.

[23:00] Like genuinely, like I was like, well, this is it. Yeah. So I got to do that. Yeah. You know, you like you let music come from all around you and you like you brought music in. Yeah. You're less concerned about trying to be 100 percent. Yeah. 100 percent. Have you met and talked to Beyonce? [23:21] I have met... [23:24] I have met Beyonce. Would you like to tell us how? I was forced. Okay, by? I was forced. Management? No, by one of my best friends who is... [23:36] Like, just... [23:38] she will always introduce me to someone always. She's like, you must. And for people, [23:43] Beyonce she was like this is your like hero like this is your everything. Set the scene where were you? So we were at a party after I just told everybody um at this Oscars party that Nemo was the best film ever made and they're like cool she's gonna work for a long time and and we went to an after party and I was with [24:06] Like two or three of my really good friends. And my friend Cara is like the best person to have out with you because she is like your biggest cheerleader ever. Is that Cara Delevingne? Yes. She like she will take. [24:21] She just like will literally she'll be like, Renee, I got to like hold you for a second. Like she's like one of the greatest friends on planet Earth, but knows how much I love Beyonce and is really fearless about it.

[24:33] And, um... [24:35] I was like, Oh my fucking God. I was like, Beyonce's literally standing here. That's so crazy. And the whole day she had been saying, she was like, we're just going to introduce you to her. Like, like they invited you. Like, it's okay. Like she, like you guys, like, [24:46] I'm sure that she loves you. I was like, no, no, no. Like, we really should, like, tone it down. And I was... Did you start to drown the room? Yeah, no, definitely. Okay, you had some liquid courage. She was in the room. Yeah, she was in the room and very blonde. And I think, like, probably the most beautiful person I've ever seen in real life. [25:09] ever and i love my girlfriend but like she knows you don't compete where you can't compare and i like that saying can't like can't like what are you gonna do you put anyone in the category with beyonce it's going down so sure carla was like you must say hi to her i'm like getting so anxious talking about it it makes me i'm like i could vomit she was like you have to and i was like you walk me up there bitch and i will kill you i'll kill you in front of everybody here but [25:39] The truth is I didn't. You didn't. Oh, she dragged me. And I was like having such a visceral reaction. I was like, this is my hero. I can't do this. I would never even want to bother her or anything. And... [25:53] I just went she's like oh my god hi I was like you don't have to do that it's okay um love you lovely to meet you you got really sleepy and I just was like I like couldn't look at her at all I also was super um I love to have a good time and I was gone so I was like hey so nice to meet you thanks for having us like you know like basically you hurried her along oh she didn't get a word in edgewise I was like I gotta go

[26:19] And she was like, oh, that's so lovely. I said, no, no, no. Don't even worry about that. You just have a good night, ma'am. I'm going to head on out. You're like, we're going to get you in the car now, and we're going to get you home. I literally, I turned around maybe three feet. [26:33] Middle of a party, middle of a party. [26:36] Screamed. Top of my lungs. Turned around at Cara and I was like, ah! And she was still very close. Yeah, she was super close. I could have walked a bit further, but I was so... I was like, I can't... [26:47] do this. It was the greatest night of my life. Do you want to meet her again? And do you think you'll be cooler when you know, that's it? We can't talk. We can't talk. I mean, like, sometimes you just don't want to meet. I can't. It's too much. Also, she'll be like, this woman just screamed like two feet away from me. And I'll be like, I totally did. I'm so sorry. Like, how could I ever do that around your ears? She probably is used to people like hearing people. Totally. Yeah. Tweak. [27:17] stage after doing a sound check and walked past me and i said how was your summer that was what i said to him what did he say he was like he just went like hey like can you imagine that being the question you asked prince yeah um terrible no it's good okay let me talk about your album okay because this music your record what's the name of your record [27:39] Bite me. Amazing. Yeah. I kind of forgot. I was like, I don't know. [27:45] Yeah, got it. Okay, bite me. So, incredible. And it is very... I was talking to you when we were... Hold on, I got to play this song. Go. Go, girl. Stream my shit. Yeah, okay, so that's what music is, is you stream it now. I guess...

[28:00] Yeah, you just stream it now. [28:05] It's funny that you say cannonball. Sorry. You're so cute. No, please don't. Hold on, Nana needs to listen to it again. No, go girl. Come on, Nana. It's funny. Come on, Nana. Let's go. Nana's get on up. [28:19] No, but you know what's funny that you say cannonball in it? Because it did have a breeder's vibe. Like there's a heavy... [28:26] like PJ Harvey vibe. Like, and what it, what, [28:31] And what I like about your music is I feel like I'm in conversation with you. You're in conversation with us. Totally. I mean, hopefully. Yeah. And there's not to get too, you know, like, but I did, you know, I don't always do research on the guests because I understand because I'm like, it's OK. Of course. But I did listen to all of your songs many, many times. Thank you. And so I just want to I want everyone to know that. But no, but I think the two songs that the one Why Is She Still Here and I Can't Be. [29:01] I can't be around you anymore. Oh, yeah. Yeah. [29:03] Those two songs... [29:05] Everyone listen to those. They feel like they're. [29:09] from the perspective of a [29:11] Two women in the same... Like, it's... [29:14] It's very cool coupling those two songs. They're great songs. Thank you. Thank you. They're like some of my favorites. That is true. They're kind of A and B to each other. One is like, why is she still here? What's going on? And the other is... [29:27] there's something going on. Yeah. We can't really handle it. And,

[29:30] I can't be around you anymore is... [29:32] Thank you. [29:32] That's a killer song. I'm obsessed with that song. I love that song. And that's a good example, I feel like, of where you're able to show restraint because you have to kind of sing it. You're... [29:43] You're singing it in a way that really makes us feel something, like really feel it deeply. It's so good. Thanks. It's really, it's, I love that one. That's going to be a late night driving song for a lot of people. Yeah. It is for me. Yeah. 100%. And it's going to be the kind of song that people send to each other like, hey, and they're just going to send it and be like, I can't see you anymore because we're. [30:05] We have too much chemistry. I got XO. XO. They're like, we're actually out. I mean, is there anything hotter than being like, we can't see each other anymore? So hot. It's like, we literally can't. You have to leave me alone. Of course. So then you do. You have to see that person again. Yeah. Must. All the time. You can't. You have to, but you can't. Of course. It's too dangerous. It's forbidden. Yes. It's forbidden. Romeo and Juliet. Damsel. Fuck. Balcony. Yeah. [30:31] Speaking of balcony, suicide, um, speaking of love, speaking of love, [30:43] How did you meet your girlfriend? [30:46] Similarly locked her in my house. Kind of the same thing to Beyonce. [30:51] Toa Bird, for people who don't know, an incredible musician. The best. Opened for you and was kind of discovered online, right? Totally. Performing and doing videos during the pandemic online. Yes. Yeah. We always joke around that we're like the two TikTok signings at our label.

[31:13] because she's super talented and is really... [31:17] sexy and so obviously I knew of her and because all the sexy you you clock all the sexy yeah I have like a Rolodex I got a list I'm like who's hot got it um [31:29] But yeah, I just always thought she was just so fucking cool. [31:34] And, yeah, [31:36] I had asked one of my best friends to introduce me to her and I, [31:41] yeah i was like you have to introduce me to her he's like i don't know if she's like um in a place in her life where she's like wanting to like meet anyone i was like i really couldn't give a fuck less um i'm not either but i'm gonna meet her yeah we need to be at least be friends yeah you were like there's something about her that feels yeah i was like i need like i i need to know her like super bad and so then he introduced me to her and she was so fucking mean to me [32:11] You liked that? Loved it. But she's scary. She's like, yeah. Well, she's like from the UK. So like, her humor is also super different. But she was also just such a bitch. Tell me, what did she say? Well, I was like, I heard so much about you. And she was like, [32:27] why are you talking so much about me then? And I was like, she's really negging you. Yeah. I was like, oh my God. And then speaking of negging, the next time we talked, I was like, we were talking about cars and, [32:37] Because I love Cars and also the movie. Good animated film. Holy shit. I always say that Larry the Cable Guy should have been nominated for an Oscar. I mean, it's incredible. His performance as Tow Mater is incredible. Un-fucking-real. It is un-fucking-real. I hear laughter, and that's rude. Because it's true. It is true. His performance is incredible on Cars. No, it's stunning. Agree. It's stunning. I just re-watched Cars 2 recently. I cried in bed. Obsessed with it. But...

[33:04] anyway how the fuck oh okay so we were talking about cars and she was telling you what kind of car she drove at the time and i was like oh that's so interesting i wouldn't like peg you for someone who would drive a car and she looked at me or who would drive a car who would drive that kind of car and she's like oh you don't want to peg me and i was like i was a freak i was like free i was like i'm so confident and so like she she oh she she over she went over the top she she she topped a [33:34] up to top. She tiptoed on my top. You like confidence. Love. Okay. [33:39] Love. And [33:41] What would be... Okay, so she's super confident. And then you're like, okay, now she's a challenge. Yeah, of course. I was like, now I'm like, you want me so bad. Just say it. You want me. That is true. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah. And so then you started dating. Yeah, then we started dating. And then who said I love you first? She told me... [34:03] I'm so sorry, but she told me we were... [34:06] Sat on the beach. Incredible. High out of our minds. Okay. Sorry. And I was so... [34:15] beyond in love with her. Like, I've never been so scared to, like, fall in love with somebody in my life. I was like, oh, Jesus. I was like, we're either going to get married or I can never speak to her again. Like, it's, like, that kind of, like... [34:27] I just am so... I, like, worship her. I think she's perfect. And... [34:33] Yeah. She was like, I think I'm falling in love with you. And I literally didn't answer, didn't say a word.

[34:39] I'm on shrooms. The sun is setting. I'm like, it's a bit cold. [34:43] There's like a TikToker behind us that I'm obsessed with. Who? Which one? Her name is Flossy Baby. Oh, I know Flossy Baby. She couldn't be more hilarious. She was behind you during it? She's behind us on the beach, but I can't say anything to her because I'm like, Flossy. She doesn't know me at this point. Yeah. A lot going on. Yeah. We know each other now because I broke everything down to her on Toe's birthday because I invited her. I said, you don't understand what a big part of our lives you are. Aww. Flossy Baby. I'm obsessed with her. And so Toe was telling you this and I was like, mm-hmm. [35:11] But I was high distracted by Flossy Baby, so I was like, there's no way she just said this to me, and what if I'm receiving it wrong because of things that are impairing my thought process? And natural plants. So I didn't say anything. [35:26] And I said... [35:27] Hmm. [35:28] Repeat one more time. And she was like, are you fucking kidding me right now? I was like, sorry, sorry, sorry. Let me walk back in. [35:36] I love you too. Like, I was like, of course. And it was the craziest. I love you too. Of course. I love you too. Of course. Honey, you're so cute. And yeah, I was just like, I'm obsessed with you and Flossy Baby's here too. It was awesome. It was awesome. It was so fun. It was so fun. So it really feels like real, true, beautiful love. I love love. That's so great. And what is

[36:06] now still? We did. I mean, we'll like... [36:09] We'll go out for shows for the other person. Will she be playing with you for any of these shows that you're going to do? 100%. Wow. What's that like? How do you stay in love and work together? It's not always easy. No. I mean, she like... [36:23] I think I just respect her so much as a musician that... [36:28] I, I, [36:29] I'm kind of always looking to her, um, like seeking her approval kind of sounds like she's doing something really terrible to me, but like, I'm like, I'm always, yeah. Like I want to know, I really respect her opinion. I really respect her opinion. And I think she has amazing taste. And I think that there are so many things in ways that she's so much smarter than me. And I love having that in a partner because I want to learn from her all the time. Um, [36:58] But there have also been times where we've worked in sessions together and we're writing for each other's projects and... [37:06] Um, she's super fun to write with so easy to collaborate with. And I don't think I'm as much like that [37:12] for her because we were writing and God bless her. We, we like left and I was like, you seem, you seem a bit upset with me. And she was like, no, I was like, I don't think I, I don't think I, [37:24] I don't think you needed to, like... [37:26] I didn't nitpick my vocals all that much. And I was like, got it, got it, got it. So what had happened was I was like trying to vocal produce her on like a demo for like the better part of an hour and a half. And I was like, again, again. You were like, I can tell why you're a little flat. Yeah. Sorry. Do you know where you were wrong? She was like, cool, cool, cool. So I don't know if she wants to work with me again. But I love working with her. Yes. Love working with her. I don't think I'm maybe the person for her, which I totally get.

[37:56] I'm a bit neurotic. [37:58] It's funny. You are a bit neurotic. You don't seem neurotic. In like a studio setting, I am. I'm pretty insufferable to be around. You want to get it right. Yeah, it's got to be it. [38:13] This episode is brought to you by Visible. How many of you are currently listening to this podcast on your phone? If you are chronically online, like we all are these days, your wireless network should be too. With Visible, you get unlimited 5G data and unlimited hotspot, all powered by Verizon's 5G network. The perks of big wireless for half the cost. Visible isn't just a wireless plan, it's unlimited wireless designed to always keep you connected and no contract holding you back. [38:43] Switch today at visible.com. Plans start at $25 a month or get our premium visible plus pro plan and save $10 on your first month when you use promo code hang an exclusive offer for podcast listeners. Terms apply. See visible.com for plan features and network management details. [39:03] So you're saying with Hilton Honors, I can use points for a three-night stay anywhere? Anywhere. What about fancy places like the Canopy in Paris? Yeah, Hilton Honors, baby. Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad in Tulum? Hilton Honors, baby. What about the five-star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives? Are you going to do this for all 9,000 properties? [39:25] When you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime, it matters where you stay. Hilton. For the stay.

[39:33] The two of you are very, very sweet together and very, very like, you know, I know that the, you know, the people that are fans of yours, like already know this, but... [39:45] You're very... [39:47] You're a very sweet example, I think, of like a beautiful young lesbian couple that are very... [39:55] open and very loving in real time. And it goes back to, I think Renee, something that's very special about you, which is you very generously like shared relationships [40:07] in many ways, with the world, your own journey about how you wanted to identify. And I'm thinking about this story that I heard when you did SNL. And you were working with the writer Celeste. And do you want to tell that story? I mean, it's the best. It's an incredible story. It's the best. So Celeste and a couple of other people had written into the skit that I was doing. [40:37] intern and at that time I was like very publicly bisexual I had been for a very long time [40:43] And like in private, I was like talking with my girlfriend and a lot of my friends for the last maybe like eight months before that of being like, I actually like don't really feel very like bi at the moment. I feel like very much like a lesbian and like it feels so nice. And like that word feels amazing and it feels very like euphoric for me. So I was like, do you think that we could just change it to like gay?

[41:13] Thank you. [41:13] really, really, [41:14] really really empowering and also i think can be kind of intimidating because you're like jesus fucking christ this feels so good for me right now and i don't want to go by something that doesn't feel correct but i'm also gonna like give myself the willingness to be like what if in 10 years i don't like that identity either and i just wanna i don't know like what if in 10 years i'm completely [41:44] that. [41:45] Or if I decide to be a really nice person, then I want to be like, wait, I'm fucking nice now. I'm nice now. Right? I want to have the grace to be able to change from being a bitch to being a sweetheart. So whatever. But yeah, I was just like, maybe like gay. I don't know. [42:00] And Celeste was like, fuck yeah, like literally whatever you want. And I was like, okay, A. And I fucking love Celeste. And then I was talking to Bowen about it, and I was like, I kind of just want to be like – [42:10] Thank you. [42:11] like slur no i kind of just want to be like like lesbian i was like i'm just gonna kind of do it and i called toa and then i was like babe i think i'm just gonna like rip like i think it like feels good also to like come out as a lesbian on like snl is like pretty cunty i was like i'm gonna do it for sure yeah and i was also like okay i'm probably gonna disappoint a lot of people who felt like they connected with like the very openly bisexual part of me and i'm also probably gonna

[42:41] that caused a controversy. Sue me. Like, fine. Okay, what a big fucking problem. So then I just wanted to do it and Bowen and Celeste and everybody were like, hell yeah. What's been the feedback? [42:55] How did it feel to do it? Did anything change after you did it? I mean, I definitely, I kind of just didn't even look online afterward because I was like, I don't care. How did it feel in your life, in your real life? Amazing. So fucking good. Like, so fucking good. [43:11] Yeah. [43:16] Um, [43:17] you know, you... [43:19] I don't know. Like, you don't... [43:23] It's just, like, it's, like, fucking, like, Magatown where I grew up at. And, like, it always has been. And it's probably better now than it was when I was a kid. Or it's ten times worse in so many ways. So I think... [43:34] For me, I was like, [43:36] It was really interesting because I think a lot of the people who I grew up around who are incredibly homophobic are very supportive of me now that I am like a public person. Because I think the idea of fame and wealth can sometimes trump hate if it's close in proximity, which is really fucking frustrating. Because I'm like, I know you don't like anybody else who's gay and you don't like me either. [44:06] shallow so much so that you're willing to like put your bigotry to the side for a second to be like oh I babysat her

[44:13] I'm like, no, you're a fucking homophobe. And I don't like you to the day. And I will never like you. My neighbors are boycotting Target for having like a pride line. I'm like, I could give a fuck about y'all. I could give a fuck about y'all. So that in that way really frustrated me. Yeah. Because I was like, you don't get to be like supportive of this thing now that it's easy for you and fun for you and something for you to fucking brag about. Yeah. You must feel very used. So used. So used. Yeah. [44:43] of that. I, like... [44:45] love being a lesbian and I love the lesbian community so much and I love like the community surrounding lesbians that like [44:53] Like really fuck with us. I don't know. So there's like. There's really bad. And there's really really good. Yeah. Yeah. I also like. I love to watch people. [45:02] come out publicly who feel like they can and then like change their identity or not. It's just kind of, I don't know. It's not for everyone, but like for me, it was definitely an integral part of, um, [45:14] my life. Well, I think what you're talking about is that by doing it, [45:19] you're just kind of like, [45:20] Leading by example, this idea that... [45:24] Everything doesn't have to be so serious. Like you can decide if as long as it's you deciding, then you can decide however and whenever and wherever you want. It can be, [45:35] in your parents' house. It can be on SNL. It can be in a relationship. Totally. Like, that is, I think, what... [45:42] if I may speak for myself, like what Gen Z has done for me, right? What young people do for me is I came up at a time when labels meant so much. They were...

[45:54] not only were they lifelong, they were like tattoos, right? So people were very, very afraid. Like, what if I get something wrong? Basically, I get it wrong. Or like, to your point, what if I want to change? Or what if I'm kind of 10% this and 90% that? Or what if I'm in the middle? There was no, there was, it was really binary. And Gen Z, because life has been so serious, [46:17] Gen Z is kind of balanced it by saying, like, it's not that serious. Yeah. It's not that. It's OK. It's make a mistake or not. Totally. Decide however you want. Totally. Relax. Yeah. And there's some way that you did that. And the way that you do that, the way you live authentically, that's very relaxing. Mm hmm. [46:35] And I think it's very cool. Yeah. Thanks. It's nice. It's nice. I like, I don't know. I enjoy it. I also just have like a big like group of like gay friends around me. Like I like have like my like gaggle of lesbians. So speaking of. Please. We do a thing here where we ask your friends or people that know you to talk well behind your back. [46:58] They talk shit about me. No. Okay. [47:02] I believe it. It's totally fine. No, it's like... [47:07] It's like mean girls, but not mean girls. It's the other side of it, which is basically we got Cara Delevingne. We talked to her today. Bitch. Such a fucking bitch. [47:21] Whore. Common whore. Incredible. By the way, when we called her, she was in Paris, and her partner was naked in the bed. So, oh, God, I love her. She was wearing headphones, and she's so – I mean, supermodels are so hot. Models are so hot.

[47:37] Models are so hot. We got to start talking about it more. Models are so fucking hot. Let's just be clear. Models are so fucking hot. I know a lot of... Yeah, this is a hot take. Yeah. Models are hot. Models are hot. Yeah, and they're pretty... [47:50] On camera, they're pretty during the day. They're pretty during the night. All the time. Yeah. [47:54] Literally all the time. Good job, models. Cara wanted me to ask you a couple of questions. Please. I'm sure they're. She had incredible questions. I was going to say, I'm sure they're very PG and very normal. Okay. And super. Yeah. Totally. First of all, what would your drag king name be? [48:10] Oh my God. I know. I'll let you think. It's so good. I got a little put on the spot and I... [48:16] Yeah, what did you say? Well, I picked what... [48:20] I got nervous. That's okay. So I said, you know, like when you're trying to figure out like your dancer name, your exotic dancer name. Of course. You do the street that you grew up on and your first pet. [48:35] Oh, no, I didn't know that. What is it? It's probably because this was set in like 1978. It's good. So I said Bradley Algonquin was my drag king name because that was the street I grew up on and I had a guinea pig named Bradley. Oh, I thought your guinea pig's name was Algonquin. No. I was like, wait. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. I know. But anyway, we'll cut this part out. No, I like it. I like it. I actually think it's pretty strong. [49:05] There's nothing worse than giving a drag name and people going, wait, what? Explain it. And then you have to explain it. And then they go, no, I like it. Well, Algonquin is where I was like, I was more just like, where's the guinea pig? Yeah. Algonquin. Actually, yeah. But that was your street name?

[49:23] So I just gave that to myself. Again, no one's ever going to hear this. We're going to cut all this out. And my social security is as follows. Okay. [49:31] So what is your drag king name? [49:34] Mm-hmm. [49:35] And do you like, I mean, I actually have to say like what I really love about you is like your experimentation with mask and femme. You do it a lot in your, in your work and in the way you dress. And I really relate to that because I'm always very confused about how to dress. A hundred, a hundred fucking percent. Very confused. And you present both often. Like you're, you go back and forth. And again, you're showing us by example that you don't have to choose. Thanks. Yeah. I've like watched so many people do it. [50:03] so well. Who does it well? I mean, not to be like so annoying, but like my girlfriend does it really well. I wasn't going to say, but she really does do it well. Like she's fine as hell. What are you going to do? Yeah. Take me out. Like it's fine. Um, fuck. I don't know. I wish I knew. I didn't know how to answer it. It's a really good question. I mean, we could think of some fun pun like, um, you know, instead of [50:30] You know, instead of... [50:32] Timothee Chalamet, you could be called Timothee Chalagay. [50:39] Is that good? [50:42] That's it. That's actually it. [50:46] Right? I can't even explain to you how much exactly that is it. But it is. Oh, my God. We did it. That's perfect. And then the other question she had, which was amazing. I'm sure. Who would be in your girl band? If you could put together a girl band, dead or alive?

[51:05] Oh, together a girl band. Good. Oh, my God. Okay, I have a real one and I have a fake. Okay, great. [51:10] Okay, the real one would be me, Karen Carpenter, Beyonce, and... [51:20] oh maybe like queen latifah or something amazing something so sick dana owens i'm like i love queen latifah i'm like please that would be so hard have you ever met her [51:33] Again, I was forced by Cara. How funny. She takes me up to everybody that I'm scared of. She is so great. Like, no surprise. No, she's fucking amazing. She's amazing. She's fucking amazing. She's so fucking cool. And there's also just like, so she's like timeless. She's so timeless to me. So that's your real band. Then what about you said you had a fake one? Yes. Fake band is me, Nini Leakes, Ellen DeGeneres and Wendy Williams. [52:03] that's the one I want yeah that makes sense I want that bad keep talking about it I'll take it as a group who would be your manager of that band um probably Cara yeah she'd manage it yeah yeah she'd she'd manage it I don't know how much like managing would be like done but I know that she'd manage it and who would be your opening act if you guys went on the road [52:27] Maybe like you as your character from Inside Out. Oh my god. I would dress up as Joy and be your opening act. That'd be super cute. That would be wild. But no, like face paint. Okay. Like your true. Yeah. That would be like an acid trip. I would love to do acid while doing that. Totally. I'd be like, this is fucking awesome. And then we also get Ellen to do Dory as well. That would. On the side. Oh, hold on. Now I see it.

[52:57] Now, thank you for that. That's great. Yeah. So I'll come out as Joy from Inside Out, and then Ellen will join me as Dory. Oh, my fucking God. And then you assume that's all we're going to see of Ellen. I'm sorry. Crying. She comes back. She washes her face paint off. And she comes back in the band. As a girl group. Yeah. [53:14] I mean. Fuck. Yeah. Fuck is right. That sold out now. As you would say, that fucks. No, that fucks. Yeah, that fucks. That does fuck, yeah. [53:27] like how do you check out when you're like when you need to rest your brain or get away from the hard stuff what's making you laugh what are you where do you go [53:38] I watch... [53:39] Oh, sorry, go. No, what do you watch? No, no, I'll cut myself off. I love to hear what people are watching. I watch S.V.U. [53:45] Okay. I'll adjust for you. Which one? Law & Order with Christopher Meloni and Marisha Pargette. That's right. [53:53] So talk to me about why that [53:55] Um, that that's a good checkout for you. I love them. Yeah. I love them. Like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. It's also the writing on that show is so crazy. It's so crazy. It's like that burp dead. Yep. What a shame. Rape. Absolutely. Whoa. No trigger warning. Right. And then it's like, it's so intense and there's so much going on. And you're like, holy shit. [54:25] It's so, so bad. And I think everyone would agree with that. It's quick. And I need something that's quick because I don't want time to think about something else because then I'll start tweaking. And I also think Christopher Maloney's kind of fucking jacked. And it's hot. He's not kind of fucking jacked. He's super jacked. Have you ever seen the picture of him in, like, a middle split when he did, like, men's health? Yeah. Love. I'm going to say something. I love Christopher Maloney. I did a movie with him. I don't like men doing splits.

[54:55] Can I be honest? I don't find that attractive. Yeah. As a straight woman? Totally. I don't enjoy flexible men. I couldn't agree more. I don't like... [55:07] Oh, this is and some of my friends do this and that's OK. [55:11] I do just want to flag. Some of y'all do this and that's all right. [55:16] I'm not big into boys flipping. [55:19] Doing backflips? We got to cut that out. Oh, I don't like, okay. I don't like boys. Right. You don't even like boys. No. But this is just my personal preference. Yeah. I totally agree. Any kind of like goofy gymnastics? Totally. I've just been like verbally and physically assaulted by too many like theater boys. Yeah. Theater like twinks, the straight theater twinks who ruined my life as kids who were like, wait, I do a flip. And so the director was like front and center. Front and center. [55:49] Do that flip. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, come on. Come on, Joey. And like, Joey's only getting front and center because the director has a massive crush on him and he can do a flip. This is before your time. But there was a movie, a great movie called The Outsiders. Do you know that movie? Heard of it. Okay. So it was like based off of a book. Yes. And it was all young Rob Lowe and young Patrick Swayze. Yeah, boys. All these boys. Yep. And Tom Cruise is famously in it. And he's one of the, and it's one of his first films. And he's like one of the bad guys. And I remember being like, he's cool. [56:19] And then he does a backflip in it. And I was like, no, no, immediately out. Immediately out. I lost. He lost it for me. There's something about it that's a bit vulnerable.

[56:27] I'm like, wait, cut that out. You're a boy. What are you doing? Yeah. And look, I've seen you lift your leg. You are very flexible. [56:35] now girls can be flexible boys shouldn't be flexible boys shouldn't be allowed to be flexible cut that shit out cut that shit out but i've seen you sing and lift your leg like this yeah leg is like up and that that too is similar to the flipping something that people shouldn't do when they're singing if you can do it you should do it all the time if you're like dancing or doing something fucking incredible absolutely but like people shouldn't do what i did that was weird [57:05] reason two times I found men doing gymnastics exciting one was in footloose when Kevin Bacon's stunt double um during his dance break he swung on a high bar in a barn and I was like but that's cool that's not a bar that was cool that's like what are you doing on that pole you little slut that's cute that's cute that's okay and I liked it and I didn't it didn't bother me yeah and um [57:35] that was on the pommel horse that was with the glasses obsessed. Okay, cute. He can do that. But that's like there. That's his job. That's his job. You know what? That's his job. If backflips are your and splits are your job. Do it. Do it. Tenfold. Go for it. Love it. You're good at your job. Commit. If you're just doing it in the middle of the street. [57:54] keep walking and i'm not saying that like if i could flip which i can't so i'm not like i'm not hating because i can't do it are you wait a minute hold on you just brought something up do you think we're hating on it because we can't do it literally no i think it's weird i'm sorry and that and by the way that doesn't mean that other people should say it's weird about anybody else okay because i really like i love my friends and if they want to flip fucking flip it's just not my thing

[58:24] they're going to fucking whatever i'm ready if the backflippers come from us we can just run away because they're backflipping all the time but they'll kick us they will kick us think about the strength in that in that thigh i mean have you ever done this where i love law and order the original law and order the first like 12 seasons like with benji bratt and i've never watched it [58:46] Eh-eh-eh. [58:47] I'll lock in. It's so good with Jerry Orbach and S. Path of Merkison as, um, the Lieutenant. It's just like, it's, it's the early law and order that every, it's the, you know, sweet generous. It's the mother ship that all of them were based off of. And, [59:04] Thank you. [59:05] They have that little exchange always before the bump-bump. [59:08] And you can sometimes guess the last line. Absolutely. I love doing that. Oh, my God. There was one last night I wish I could remember because it's just so crazy. It's so crazy. I'm like, I can't imagine... [59:23] And delivering that line. Right. Like there's a, you know, a body found in Central Park and someone's like, yeah, it was during the marathon, you know, and and the suspect was found here under the tree. And then Jerry Orbach comes over and just goes, well, I guess you're not making it to the finish line today. Exactly. And you're just like, oh, exactly. I cannot imagine having to deliver that line. I would. [59:51] I'd walk out. I'd walk right on out of a set. I'd be like, you know what? I disagree. I think you'd nail it. Oh my God. I could my like, what's it? Um, suspension of disbelief or something. I'm not, Ooh, I'm not good at that. If I get like, if there's a line that I'm like, I can't do this. I like totally shut down as a, as a person. I'm going to say,

[1:00:12] That you're underestimating yourself because what I have learned about you, Renee, if I may, is that you're pretty good at overriding nerves to get. [1:00:22] to level up. You've done it over and over again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you get through the [1:00:28] the scary parts. What do you do? I [1:00:30] Really just don't take it seriously. I just do not take it seriously. Because when I take myself too seriously... [1:00:36] I panic. Yeah. I panic because it's like oftentimes it's truly not as much. I hate to say this. It's truly not about me. So. [1:00:48] And no one fucking use that again. OK. But like, you know, I'm going to just finish by saying this. [1:00:53] I've seen examples of you being like a very loving and supportive person in real time. And I know that about you. And I heard that about you. Thank you. Can you advocate for yourself the same way? Oh, absolutely. Okay, great. Oh, with a quickness. With a quickness. Yeah. Because like, you know, kids are assholes. People are assholes. I was an asshole. Like, I'm sure there were so many times I can recall that like people were assholes to me when I was growing up in school. [1:01:23] for no reason because I was pissed at myself or pissed off at somebody else. [1:01:28] So like... [1:01:29] I don't know. [1:01:31] That's not to say that sometimes I'm not an asshole. I totally am. Yeah, but just like how you said earlier, you may want to identify... [1:01:37] As a nice person soon. I know. [1:01:40] I might need to like tap into that like sort of like little like pigtail kind of infinity scarf girl again. Oh, my God. We're back to the infinity scarf. That was perfect full circle just like the infinity scarf. Totally. I'm straight again. You're straight again. I'm straight again. That's what I do to people.

[1:02:02] Sorry, ladies. I made Renee straight again. Fuck. I know. Don't worry. We'll get her back. We'll get her out of the room. We'll get her back. Yeah. Come out with the lesbians. [1:02:10] be you'll be you'll be gay yourself [1:02:12] I mean, I wish. Oh, my God. Literally come out. We go out every weekend. Come out. Where are you going this weekend? Literally wherever. Okay. That's not a place. Literally wherever. The problem is you go out late. [1:02:25] No, well, yeah, but like you'll you'll be so fine. I promise. What time do you get leave the house? [1:02:30] Thank you. [1:02:32] Like, what time do you want to leave the house? I'm asking you, what time does your night start? Like, at 9. At 9? Oh, that's not bad. Yeah, because we'll get, like, dinner before because you need to eat if you're going to go out. I can't. I can't do two things. It's either one, it's out, or dinner. I get it, I get it, I get it. You know what? I'm so sorry. I can't go. That's okay. That's totally okay. I'll send you. I'm so stressed. I'm so tired. Don't worry. Don't worry. And I know 9 means 9.30, and then... Totally. 10.30. 10.30. Lesbians. Yeah. 10.30. [1:03:01] people. [1:03:02] And, you know, an anti-acid. Yeah. And I'm going to have to take a Pepsid or something. That's OK. But have a good time and tell me how it goes. 100 percent. OK. Send you photos. Renee, thank you so much for doing this. Thanks for having me. This was a blast. Thank you, Renee Rapp. You were awesome. And, you know, this is the part of the show where I just give little shout outs. It's the polar plunge, if you will, where we go deeper. So first of all, check out Flossy Baby on TikTok and probably other platforms. She's hilarious.

[1:03:32] fell in love. So she's technically, she's technically good luck. And also, because we're talking about music, I just want to point out that our theme song, the Good Hang theme song, is written by the great Amy Miles. Amy Miles is a singer-songwriter from New York City, my dear friend for over 25 years. She's incredibly talented. She wrote this for us. And so many of you want to hear the whole song. And so we want you to go to Spotify, go to Spotify and check out [1:04:02] and check out the Good Hang theme song. You can get it there and show her some love because she's so talented. And she's my friend, and I love her. Thank you, Amy. Okay, thanks, everybody. Never know how to end these. Bye. [1:04:16] You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullin, and Alea Zanaris. [1:04:32] Production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.