Abbi Jacobson and Ilana Glazer

[00:00] This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking your pockets before putting clothes in the washer? [00:09] Oof. Enjoy your freshly cleaned and completely destroyed earbuds. Yeah, checking first is a good plan. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. [00:29] Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Good Hang. This is an exciting one. I'm starting this episode in Los Angeles, and then I'm getting on an airplane, and I'm flying to New York, where I go to that studio and talk to Abby Jacobson and Alana Glazer, the stars of Broad City, just the sweetest, most wonderful, talented women who, in many ways, helped my company, [00:59] is today. And I cannot wait to talk to them. We're going to talk about Broad City, the show, of course, and getting that made and what it was like to do it together. We're going to talk about female friendships. We're going to talk about, you know, life as a millennial and how it's changed and what is nostalgia. And hopefully we're going to get to all of those things. But I always like to start these episodes with people who know our guests, who have good feelings and thoughts about [01:29] questions to ask the guests. And I thought no better people to ask than the women who run Paper Kite Productions, the co-heads, the co-presidents of Paper Kite, Kate Arend and Kim Lessing, who work with me every day and who are going to join me in this studio to talk about Abby and Alana. So ladies, welcome. This episode of Good Hang is presented by Walmart School

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[03:48] And we are in charge of the many incredible shows and movies that Paper Kite makes. Everything from Broad City to Russian Doll, Difficult People, Harlem. Yeah, we're producers. We don't produce as a team. We actually produce separately. And we really take on projects based on our passion for them, our availability. Like, we really... [04:09] We really are... [04:11] We like to describe ourselves as the engines of projects, the connectors of projects. And we really love every second of doing it. And we've been here working with Amy for 10 plus years. Yeah. We will never leave. That's right. She'll have to drag us out of here. We have the keys to this. Well, you do really have all the secrets. Yeah. And they're bad. [04:41] of the timing. Oh, we both started on Broad City. Yeah. So tell me how you started on that show and like what your memories of the early Broad City days. Well, I actually started on the Comedy Central side. Right. So I was like thrilled to get this job at Comedy Central because they were making Broad City. And then I ended up leaving Comedy Central to come work with you. And I got to work even closer to the ladies on Broad City. And it was like I knew I was in the right place because I felt like I was making something that actually genuinely represented my life and [05:11] So when I first interviewed with Amy, I had just watched season one of Broad City. And I remember being like, holy shit, I've never seen...

[05:18] queens like this on tvs before like no one's ever existed like this on television my age doing the kind of stuff my friends and i do say speaking the way that we speak and my first day of paper kite amy and i did notes on a season two episode and i was like is this real life like what is happening and that was your first day yeah well maybe my second but yeah i got to like send [05:41] My boss at the time, my notes on the cut, one of the first cuts. I think I started on season three, actually. And she used some of them. And I was like, I've made it in entertainment. I was like, I'm in. I was so happy. But we used to do a lot of like, are you Abby? Are you on a lot? Are you who's who? It wasn't a hard one to really say. I want to talk about it because what was so cool about, what is so cool about that show is that, [06:06] it creates these versions of like friends and, you know, much like, [06:12] you know, back in the day, like Laverne and Shirley, or even the Golden Girls or Sex in the City. Like when you start being like, are you an Abby or an Alana? What I think underneath that is it proves like the writing is good that you've, [06:26] identified what a what version of you it was such a specific friendship that it was completely and utterly universal like you just it everyone was either an abby or an alana so what are you kim i'm obviously alana because i'm like head over heels in love with kate and always have been and always try to touch her butt yeah it started with me being like can i yeah and then again i mean i would never do that at work that's we do that's not okay but like when we left the office

[06:56] Yeah. [06:57] In the parking lot. And so Kate, you are an Abby. She's also a deadhead. Yeah. Totally. Yeah, and we both love Oprah. Yeah. That kind of stuff. And you guys have that crazy Oprah connection where you both like her. So for people who don't know about what we do, right? So we're a film and production company. We do all different kinds of projects, animated, unscripted. We do half hours. We do hour-long dramas. [07:27] talking to creators about [07:30] you know, young creators who have an idea and want to transfer it. And could you speak a little bit to how we use that as an example? We always say like Broad City is our North Star and it is the North Star. I think if you are a young female creator, you know, [07:45] in comedy in the last 10 years, that's it. Like they did the thing that, [07:50] Everybody wished they could do that. [07:53] men had been doing for a long time. There was true, like we said before, no one liked them. So we always refer to them as kind of [08:00] they're they're enmeshed in our ethos as a company. Yeah. And they have a lot of elements of things that we really resonate with, like scrappy underdogs, women who love each other, people that are like with have like messy edges and also two characters that really want something like what I always related to about Abby and Alana is even though they were like silly and messy, they always really went after the things they wanted. Like they went after with such. Yeah. And they took such good care of each other, which is such friendship is so important to us.

[08:29] We had a conversation day one. If there's any sense of competition or jealousy, we have to talk about it. We have to get it out because it will just sit in and fester and make it stressful and miserable and – [08:40] communication just, we were smart enough to know then that it was the thing that was going to get us through. And today, 11 years later, it's still, we're so brutally honest with each other. And, and then we say thank you to the other person that we can be so brutally honest with each other. And yeah, I feel like Abby and Alana were like that. Totally. And just the other day, for example, Kate was like, you interrupted me a thousand times. And I was like, thank you so much for letting you know. I'm so glad you feel comfortable telling me. She was like, I'm so glad you're [09:10] it's true you know we talk about it a lot here like you know a workplace is um i i like to say it's not a family it's a country and i like to say it's a family we reject that but that's great and um lovers are family it's a bed full of lovers who are all related [09:40] Workplace is a country and it has its own culture and language and set of rules. And so one of the things I think that our country – [09:49] believes in is that [09:51] In our experience, female friendships are a natural resource. They are, like, the most important things in our life. And for the most part, they're not, like, these competitive, awful, like –

[10:03] you know, experiences are often like the most supportive experiences. And I feel like [10:09] You're talking exactly about that, that women often come together and help each other in real time. And that help is like, you know, like rooting for other people's success never gets in the way of your own, basically. But that it's hard to remember that sometimes. And I think a lot of work environments are not conducive. Like ours was easy. You're our mentor. Like it was easy to be like, let's team up, you know, it was, but it sometimes takes a lot of work, but I think there's [10:39] time when it's not worth it just to try like reach out a hand and be like let's be [10:45] let's be a team instead of enemies. Like rising tide. Yeah. Rising boats, right? Like I think, I think, [10:50] I actually think you said that once and it was the first time I'd heard. She invented that quote, I think. I think you're right. You know, I have a laptop. Let's see who can find who said that fast. Okay. Can you move over? [11:02] Hey, I can do it faster. Immediately French impossible. A ride and tide. [11:07] Lifts all boats is an aphorism associated with what we know. Oh, it's attributed to John F. Kennedy. Wow. There is no way. There is literally no way. That guy gets so much credit he doesn't deserve. How dare you. I know you're obsessed. The first Irish Catholic. There's nothing wrong with JFK. Literally so handsome. Relax. My grandmother had a picture of Jesus and JFK in her house. We had such different grandmas.

[11:37] so so that brings me to million dollar advice we're talking about the podcast that you two are doing we're going to it's going to be the new season is going to be launching very soon tell us about what that podcast is okay so our show million dollar advice is a work advice podcast where we have people call and email in and we answer their work related questions so it can be anything from like how do i deal with my shitty boss to kim's dying for a question [12:07] If your coworker owes you money. I feel like there's, there's questions you guys are not asking us about like you loan someone money for something and they just haven't paid you back. How do you ask? Like, how do you ask? When's it, when's it too soon? When's it gone on too long? Right. Great question. That's a good question. But basically Kim and I, because of this amazing communication and partnership that we have, we almost... [12:28] We're like, we got to share this because we're in on something. I mean, our advice is so good. It's million-dollar advice. It's at minimum million-dollar advice. It's so good. And we get each other through everything. And so many people don't have this kind of like work friend, work sounding word. We don't have an Alana to their Abby. Or Kate to their Kim, some would say. Right. So we want to do that for people. And, you know, our first season is like full of the types of questions we're interested in answering and we're – [12:57] Hoping for that money question. Yeah. So we're making more. How can people send in questions? [13:03] MillionDollarAdvicePod at gmail.com. And they can send an email. You can leave a voice note.

[13:08] whatever your fancy is and we'll get back to you and we'll figure out if you want to call in we'll solve your problem we'll fix your life that's the thing it's like [13:16] You're wondering, how do I fix my life? What do I do? It's like so easy. Email million-dollaradvicepod at gmail.com and it's gone. Okay, perfect. And then I'm going to get an airplane. I'm going to fly to New York. That's great. What question do you think I should ask Abby and Alana? I have a good one. Okay. I think I have a really good one. Okay. So... [13:35] When you make a show together, it's like having a new baby. Like you're all work all the time. And I was curious, like what things they did to fill their friendship cup and make sure that they were still like in love and like staying in love during like the most the hardest, longest hours. Great question. Million dollar advice. We're going to check that out. We're going to talk about it more. Abby and Alana, we're going to see them in New York. Thank you guys so much for coming across the street to this studio from our offices. [14:05] Loving us. [14:07] This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Summer is here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered by Uber Eats. What do I mean by almost? Well, you can't get a summer blockbuster delivered, but you can get a block of cheese. A cabana, that's a no. [14:26] But a banana, that's a yes. You know what I like to order from Uber Eats? Batteries. Don't eat batteries. But I often need batteries, and you can get batteries from Uber Eats. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details.

[14:50] You are a little raspy today because of your Broadway performances. That's right. Congratulations. Thank you so much. And I cannot wait to talk about it. It's very exciting. Abby and Alana are here today. My... [15:03] Thank you. [15:04] Children, wives, sister, sister. [15:07] Partners in Crime, I'm very excited you guys are here. Thank you for doing this. We're so excited to be here. I was thinking about our talk today. There's just so many things to talk about today. And I was like, so excited. Oh my gosh. Like I have a paper and everything. For people that don't know, you know, Broad City was a long running show on Comedy Central that Abby and Alana wrote and starred in and directed and produced and created. And it was and is like this [15:37] for a lot of people. And I was thinking about the last scene today. What happened in the last scene? And what were you trying to say in it? [15:46] And has it lasted? That scene came back. [15:49] game as a vision to Paul W. Downs. You remember that? That's right. He came in, we were writing, we wrote part of season five in LA in an Airbnb. And Paul came in, [16:02] One morning and he was like, I had a flash of the last moment. [16:07] And I think this is where Alana... [16:11] exits the subway in Union Square [16:15] And we've FaceTimed. Yeah. Right? And Alana's walking through the city. And then the camera leaves Alana and sees the other pairs. I just got chills. I know. And he was like... That was like the thing. And that was...

[16:29] That was what we kind of had always talked about, which is just like we're we're one of like. [16:35] thousands and millions of pairs. And we had just been following us. But the New York of it all, was like, we were showcasing like, oh, there's, there's these, there's Abhinolanas everywhere. Yes. And you know, we end on, do you know Marie Faustin and Sydney Washington, the stand-ups? Yeah. But the end on Marie and Sydney was so perfect, just because they're so delicious. And [17:05] I think what we were trying to say is that we followed Abby and Alana, but everybody's got their – if you're in your own life, oh, you're having your own adventures and your parties in New York is such a – always this like – [17:19] infinitely fruitful backdrop for the craziest shit to happen. I can't get over it. I've been here 20 years. I can't get enough. I know. I can't get enough. And what it was and- [17:35] I still is. And is that what you've, [17:39] What you did with that ending, I think, is you gave the show back. [17:44] to the people that loved it. And that's why I think that the, you know, the DNA. Cry, cry, cry. I love to get people to cry. I think it felt and still feels like one of the big reasons why that show sticks around is exactly what you said, is people, they are the main characters of their own story. Everyone is. And everyone feels like they're living a life that feels like,

[18:11] Very much like Abby and Alana's life. Like, how am I piecing together a life in real time? And the fact that that ending was like passing the baton, it's... [18:19] It's very deep. And I think it has to do a lot with what we're going to talk about today in your work. So for those people that don't know, let's go back in time. [18:29] To little tiny babies. Alana's 19. Wow. Right. And Ab, you're what are your you guys met? What age and where did you meet? How did how did you two? [18:40] 22. This is so funny that this, well, I knew this was happening, but, um, wow. 19 years ago, my dog. Yeah. This is actually, this is crazy that I did this last week. Uh, we met in a. Did what last week? [18:55] I'm going to get to. Oh, copy that. [18:58] Ayahuasca. I did ayahuasca last week, and I went right back to 22 years. No, but we were in an improv practice group. Like, we were both taking classes at UCB. Yeah. [19:09] I had just graduated college and moved here. [19:13] You were still at NYU. [19:14] Um, [19:15] You know, you take classes at UCB and then like you got to form a practice group. [19:20] like after school or like at night, after your day job, uh, our mutual friend, Tim Martin. Um, I remember he was like, I'm in this class with these two, uh, it's a brother and sister and they're great. Like, can they come and practice with us? And we were like, yeah. And, [19:38] Elliot and Alana came and I was like,

[19:41] this girl's on Arrested Development. That's crazy. Like, how does she have time to get off of Arrested Development? Yeah, it just ended, and I was like, it makes sense. She's in New York. Makes sense. You have, like, a huge network show, and then you go do practice and cross groups. Yeah, my practice group in New York. Just to make sense. Well, I mean, this is how I remember it. This is my side. And then we go to McManus that night. [20:04] Which is a bar nearby the theater. And we're sitting at the bar, you and me. And it was like other, it was only guys in the group except us. And we're talking, we're like, where are you from? Where are you from? And I was like smitten with this person, like everyone that meets Alana. I was like, this person is unlike anyone I've ever met. And not like any of my friends. And we were just like, and she was like, I'm from Long Island. And I was like, whoa, like two of my best friends from college are from Long Island. She's like, I'm from Smithtown. And I was like, so are they. And I was like. [20:34] And then I said their names. And you were like, I know them. And I was like, this is not the girlfriend. Oh, my God. I'm literally crying. But I remember you were so... I'm going to cry as well. Wait, Alana's crying? What's making you cry, Alana? When she said smitten, I started crying. Oh, my gosh. That's just so sweet. And I remember... [20:52] you know, dramatically falling under the bar that we do know these two same people. It's like, we're Jews. We're from the Tri-State area. Like not that big a deal. But I was, oh, I was, I was changed that Abby knew these two people I knew. But I think what you were saying, what was underneath that is like that the universe, like it's why it's so thrilling to look back at how things come

[21:17] the smallest changes in our lives go in a completely different way. And what you were noticing, like the universe was giving you some signs of familiarity, basically. Like it's, you know, if you believe in past lives, it's like, oh, we knew each other before. Like that's the universe just like making sure you have something to talk about. So you spend five more minutes talking. So then you spend 15 minutes talking. So then you do a show together. Wait, real quick. [21:47] with McManus. Wow. Wow. And I said McManus the first time I like almost made a joke. It's like so rude, but like a dumpster with bars, like, you know, nailed. It's not exactly a bar in New York City for people that are listening. That used to be kind of the place where everybody after improv shows would hang out. And it was like green paper tablecloths at the time and the French leather seats. Yeah. It's like ass grooves and it's never been changed out. Like you're [22:17] mechanics. It's never been updated. The people in the back were like, unattainable. [22:22] Like at that point, we were like up at the front looking like there was this hierarchy at UCB that we never climbed. We only climbed it outside of. [22:31] from UCB through Broad City. But yeah, the further back you went at McNamara's. Like an invisible velvet robe. Yeah. But I walked in. I went in the side door. Wow. Like, it's crazy. Sticky floors. I went in and... [22:44] But we went there so much after that moment. But I walked in, we even shot in there.

[22:50] We shot like the cocktail cold open in McManus. We needed to shoot there. But I walked in and just remembered that moment I just said. [22:59] of you and I at the bar. Wow. That's a real time travel moment. And so you meet and you're like, you're not Alia Chakwat, but I will have... [23:09] YouTube being a scene many years later in Broad City, but you say, okay, I see something in you. I love being with you. We like being with each other. And then you start creating. What is the, what do you remember? Like when that creative content stuff started? Like, you know, [23:25] I think being in this improv group, it wasn't like we got so much duo time. There was something like... [23:32] like a grit that was like a tension that was not the same. The difference between us that when rubbed together, you know, created this spark, this like difference, the differences about us that we were like, that's funny. That's funny. And I think also as women and as young women, it's, [23:50] you're kind of safer together. So it's, it's like, you're going to cry. Yeah. I love it. It's so good. Why do we get our makeup done? We're not going to get through any questions. Let's cry the entire time. And I'm going to get one on back. But it's like, you know, it's, I think it's so much about sameness when you're young, when you're a young woman, but we were, I think,

[24:20] each other to recognize our differences and it tickled us. And beyond our sense of humor that was both [24:27] you know, Venn diagram shared in different, it was also like our work ethic. We were like desperate to make a spreadsheet, you know? Yeah. And we're like, we had these ideas and we were like desperate to list them neatly. I mean, that is, I think a lot of like your, when you get out of college and that time period where you're like, I need to give myself a job. I need to be busy because I've, you know, up until now, schoolwork has kept me busy and like [24:57] that I've been on has kept me busy, but you're like, now I have to structure my own busyness. I have to create busy things. Something that's just, that's coming up for me is all three of us having worked so much in food and service, you know, and there's so much busyness in that, you know, it's just texted you about steamers landing. You just texted me. Oh yeah. What was the, what was that place you worked? Was it actually called steamers landing? Like disgusting. Even if they still exist. I bet the French fries are good though. It's steamers landing. Yeah. Yeah. [25:27] Paul Lucia had changed it in a script to dumpers post. And I remember we were at the office and we were like first reading a script that they got back to us. I fell to my knees like bent over a couch, fell to my knees. And we're talking about Paul Downs and Lucia Agnielo, who went on, are now creators of Hacks and who, you know, wrote and directed and produced with you and us.

[25:57] So like they also have their like baby versions of this experience. That's right. Well, we so we did this. [26:04] uh, improv group for like two years before doing anything Broad City. But it was, it was the two of them actually, who we made one episode of Broad City, the web series. And we were like, again, as Alana said, so organized, so organized. And it was the two of them who saw it and emailed us and, uh, [26:22] Loved it. The first webisode came out and they... [26:25] They emailed us doing this separately. So when we when you guys were in your second season of this web series in 2011, I was down the street living in the West Village. And I get a text from a Upright Citizens Brigade teacher. Will was it Will Hines? Yeah. And he said, hey, check out Abby and Alana. [26:55] wanted to know if you want to do it and so i watched a bunch of your stuff and i thought it was really funny and it was shooting right down the street from my house and you two asked me to come do a small bit we were like um running away and i remember oranges fell on me at one point there were i don't remember anything about the plot what was the there's barely what was the plot we were running we were running we were running and we were trying to get toward a spoiler a [27:25] And [27:26] And then after that, as far as I remember, very soon after you sent me an email saying, saying what? I remember this very well. We...

[27:37] That last episode of the web series, we knew we wanted it to be the last one. It was like more production value. We like worked with this director who it was just like bigger. And we emailed you with the cut maybe of it and said – [27:54] This is our we we've been thinking and we want to go to L.A. and pitch this as a show. Would you ever consider being the executive producer on it? We were also like kind of excited that we were like pretty much the same height. And when we first met and was just like, this is funny, you know, like. Yeah, we all love being short, literally seeing eye to eye. Yeah. And I remember being like, well, we we might send it to Jonah Hill. And we knew we were going to ask you, but we weren't going to ask you on the spot. I'm just here to say it was a genius move. [28:21] to say you were going to send it to Jonah Hill. Girl, your face. I will never forget. She goes, no way. [28:30] That's what you did. I remember being like, I remember being like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? [28:35] I remember just being like, she was like pissed immediately. Immediately, like in the race, like taking like immediately because I am competitive. But I remember thinking like, no, Jonah Hill can't take. You have broads. And this was not a ploy. No, I think Jonah Hill. You know what I mean? Whatever. But like, you know, but I remember your expression, you know, and like. [28:59] I don't know. I remember just thinking later, like, you know, it's always smart to, to, it's like in relationship. It's okay sometimes to be like, you're not the only one circling here, honey. I'm dating, babe. I'm dating. Yeah. You think I'm just waiting around? Yeah. I'm not going to, okay. This, we're okay. So, so, so you sent me the email and I was like, let's go. We're in. And we started developing together. Wait, can I just say one thing? Yeah. You, your response to that email, I think was the biggest celebration of the entire time.

[29:26] 10 years. I remember it was on my, I think I called you. [29:32] And I was like shooting some short film. And she was like upstate in the middle of the night. I was like, hold on. You clearly didn't open your email. Open your email. And like we were freaking out. I was like, I think I had to leave a party. I left a birthday party. It was like it was honestly that was it. Like I remember all the other milestones. But you saying you're going to like that was like your hero believes in you. That was crazy. And then you met. OK, you were like, well, let's meet about it. [30:02] We met before we met for like a good hour. We were like, okay. Just to like pre-vomit, you know? Yeah, we were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're like, what's it going to be like? It could be anything. Just in this hallway, like before we met, I was like this forever kiddo, Amy Poehler. Like you could just picture... [30:20] what your parents saw you as in the doorway at eight. Like you're always that like, Hey, you know, and like the way you just walked down the hallway to greet us, that was how you walk down the fucking street. She's like, hello, you know, like all sunshine, you're wearing these like cute sunglasses and a dress and it's just sunshine. And this like, Ooh, you're like, you're, you're like heart is on your sleeve and it's you at eight. And then we were like that it was surreal.

[30:50] was [30:50] like as though I was tripping my balls off after it as well. [30:59] Because I remember we were like, you came with a legal pad. We got to make a teaser. We made the teaser from the web episodes and the legal pad going through our silly little web episodes, what you thought of each one. And we were like, we were like, what is going on? The thoughts and [31:20] don't know real opinions and we were at which i'm not gonna say where we were at a restaurant where we were like this is clearly amy's favorite restaurant got like you know those like sort of saying hello to everybody hello george how's your wife oh my god and we're like we'll just get toast you know like you don't even know how to order at this time yeah you know what do you get well we'll get that you know like just not even knowing how to have like be a person it's so funny i mean [31:50] bottom of show mountain memories of it. And, you know, [31:55] I the reason that one of the many reasons why I'm so thrilled that we're talking today is like to put it in perspective for me, Broad City made me feel like a real producer. [32:06] I had been producing on parks. I had produced other things and stuff that I had done. And, you know, we had technically produced our UCB show, even though we didn't know what that was. That was what we were doing. [32:17] And our sketches at SNL, but Broad City felt like the child that made me the mother.

[32:25] It's still when I think about it, I feel so proud to have been. [32:30] Um, [32:32] a long [32:33] for... [32:34] the ride and just being in being helped [32:37] helpful in any way, but I learned so much from watching the two of you. I learned so much from like trying to advocate for the show. I learned so much about what I kind of stuff I wanted to make, you know, fully cry. Oh my God. This is it now. Oh my God. And then plus the voice, it's like, [33:07] Just like you... [33:08] I don't want to cut you off. No, no, but it's like, you know, I remember this one time. [33:13] that we had lunch or whatever. And like, you talked about the sexual politic of the show. And I was like, I remember like, then we'd be like out talking and I'd be like, well, what we're really trying to do is the sexual politic of the show. Oh my God. Can I have like a full tissue? Talk about sexual politic for a second. Very, I've said this before, immediately what I learned, and this is why I love, like the best thing about getting older is like [33:43] certain about everything. If you're doing it right, you just know you're supposed to be, you're supposed to let go of the grasp of the things you think, you know, and that is what I think young people do, people younger than you do. And even just the very simple way in which you guys approached your own bodies, your own bodies in space, your own bodies in the show, the way you approached, I mean, I remember...

[34:02] Very specifically saying, you know, I'm. [34:08] You know, if you don't want to get in your underwear for this scene. And the pilot. And the pilot. If you guys feel uncomfortable and you're like, we wrote it. We are the ones writing that we're in our underwear. And we're so comfortable with how the dynamic is in the scene. We're so like, thank you. Good looking out. But you're kind of missing the point in a way. And there was a lot of that for me where I watched how you two – [34:32] Um, [34:33] reminded me of like what I, what was like an old story or like old programming. Like I think it's what Brad City did a lot and still does. I will say on that, [34:44] I don't know how fully comfortable I was in those scenes. But I think that was also like, okay, over here we wrote it, and I, like, loved it so much, and I knew that, like – [34:56] Abby as actor will have to [34:59] deal with that when we get to the day. And for me, [35:04] That like, I feel like that [35:06] like Broad City was in a moment for me of like a little bit later [35:11] uh like huge growth like I feel like I grew up a little later I'm gonna fully cry like and and in so many ways because of Alana which is so like the Abby and Alana that's what's happening [35:28] Like, like, I think, first of all, like, but the confidence, like, of the that dynamic of like, like, Abby is the insecure one. And Alana's got this like bravado. And that's like something that I was like.

[35:47] learning right alongside the character because that was real. Yeah. You know, like us being, us being, sorry, I'm laughing. We, we are, but us being the hottest women in like any room is like, that was like, not how I approached it. [36:04] going out and we, I would go out with Alana as a friend and that would be like, and I don't know if that was like a fake it till you make it, but that was like the charge of like, yeah, you know, we are. And I, and my ass is the, like the hot, like my ass being a hot thing was not something I ever thought we'd focus on so much. And then I was like, I only like only through Alana, but like that among many other things was like such a huge change for me. And I think like, [36:34] able to be like, I might not be comfortable, but like, I know this is so right. And this is so powerful and like so funny. I mean, I think that's what female friendships at their best do is they, you [36:45] They provide this the opposite of a funhouse mirror. Like they provide this like beautiful mirror that you get to look in and see this version of yourself that your friend sees. And you're right. It's very it's that's aspirational. It's kind of manifesting. But it is like you are sexy if you say so. And you're beautiful if you feel so. And everybody is beautiful and sexy and in their own way. And sometimes you just can't you have to have like a surrogate feel it for you. Yeah. [37:15] for each other in female friendships. And that's what exactly what Abby and Alana did constantly. It's just and it's good for comedy, like pumping each other up is funny. Oh, it's so funny. And, you know, to the point before of what I was saying about sexual politic, you just validated us.

[37:30] as [37:31] Women, not as girls. Everybody called us girls, even the people working for us, you know, they called the girls, whatever you called us women at such a young time where I was like, damn, I suppose we are. And then, you know. [37:44] Like with comedy, I mean, it's just, I just will never, it's just the fucking best. Comedy is just the fucking best. Why is it the best? Because it's like, it's, um, it's this cosmic. [37:56] container that [37:58] just lifts you up off the ground of like the systems we're rooted in and just connects people so efficiently. It's so efficient, you know, just whatever. Obviously, farts are the funniest. Someone farts. I disagree. I'm not the biggest fart is funny fan. Like if somebody farts, [38:15] in a context where they're not supposed to you don't giggle i don't think ish it really depends like that was actually a big thing for us on the set of parks and rec because like people would fart and i'd be like don't fart just like in the in life yeah like on no i don't like that that's not what i'm talking about i'm talking if they accidentally fart i feel a little codependently worried about them um no i mean like if somebody farts as a joke to invade your space with odor [38:45] Not shenanigans. We don't like that. Well, when are farts coming? Okay, so I remember a good Broad City fart. I'm meeting your parents. It's at, like, your shiva, and Bob Balavan picks me up, and we're like, and we're adding a fart there. That's what I'm talking about. That is an excellent fart. I'm talking about professorial, masterful fart comedy. That was really thoroughly thought out and intentional. But you're right. A little squeeze that comes into a little, like, and, like, it's cute. But we added it. It was cute. Yeah. That's right. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's a cute fart.

[39:15] are cute and also cute oh for sure but i'm also talking about like adding a sound effect or when you just we did add this yeah yeah yeah i hear you and and and and what and then just to stay in the to get us on the air we you write a script [39:35] We go to FX. We try to make it at FX. They pass. [39:39] And we kind of have a moment where we have to regroup. I remember... [39:43] just going back to what you're talking about, maybe like when you felt like, [39:47] producer, I remember you would be the one that would have to deliver that news to us. I did. I learned a lot. Yes, that was in real time. I was learning on the job. You know, I was like like all of us, like you sometimes it fakes. You make it. You have to kind of pretend. And I remember thinking, right, my job here is. [40:05] is to... [40:06] uh, [40:07] Never let... [40:09] Never let anyone feel like [40:11] you know, we're not going to solve this problem because that's just, you're supposed to, you're supposed to keep the ship in the water and, you know, you know, and other people can steer it, but you have to make sure it doesn't sink. And so I remember not quite knowing where we were going to go next, but feeling like I needed to make sure that you felt like we were going to go somewhere good. I think we did. And you did. Yeah. I'm remembering now another lunch at a place that we never would go, but we're like, totally, we'll meet you there. And, and it's going to be chill.

[40:41] Oh my God. But you were like... [40:45] So, you know, lucky for us, Comedy Central had wanted us, which isn't always the case. And you were like, FX is like a cold boyfriend. You don't even want them. No. Anyway. You don't want that boyfriend anyway. And it was like, yeah, I don't. Yeah. And that time, Comedy Central, maybe to let people know, we were in such good company. Who else was on the air during that time? Key and Peele. Key and Peele. It was so funny. Workaholics who had a similar, like. [41:12] web to [41:13] to TV. Amy Schumer, Inside Amy Schumer, Kroll Show. Maybe Nathan For You. Yeah, that's right. Early Nathan Fielder. Yeah, it was such an incredible time. [41:28] This episode is brought to you by K18. So you've tried a million different hair masks only to watch your results literally wash down the drain? Well, you should know that K18 molecular repair hair mask actually reverses damage. Thanks to the patented K18 peptide, you'll get strong, soft, bouncy hair in just four minutes. Color, bleach, heat, however your hair has been damaged, this totally transforms it from the inside out. Shop at Sephora or get 10% off your first purchase [41:58] 2018hair.com with the code Amy. [42:01] This episode is brought to you by Ultima Replenisher. You know what no one has time for? Over-the-top wellness trends. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for taking care of yourself, but being healthy should make your day better, not harder. And that's where Ultima comes in. With all six essential electrolytes, Ultima provides balanced hydration that fits right into your day. Available in delicious plant-based flavors with no sugar, calories, or carbs. Shop Ultima on Amazon or in-store at Target and Whole Foods Market.

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[44:06] literally middle-aged adults, it's like such a sweet, [44:10] such a sweet connective thing when people talk about it when we were younger they thought we wanted they thought we improvised it we were like we work so hard to write this over and over and over you know it's just improv it's left together and and that we're like stone like if they're meeting us on the street that we're stoned in that moment or whatever and it's like you're stoned we think we're the characters from the show yeah and like what it is now is like it's just reached this like such a warm sweet [44:35] like bed for connection. I don't know if you experience, I mean, when we're, we haven't for a second been like out together, but that's a whole other thing that people are like, [44:45] What are you guys doing on the street together? But my wife, Jodi, she's like, this is unlike anything. To have someone witness it, she's like... [44:55] you get this, we like, [44:58] This wild, positive affirmation, like coming at you. [45:03] That is so rare. That is like a really, I feel very thankful all the time for that. Before we move off of the Broad City section, I do want to just for like people that are big fans. [45:15] Hottest day on set. [45:17] Coldest day on set. [45:19] Any memories of like when you were very hot, very cold? Everything was so sweaty, literally sweaty. And I don't know why I was always wearing skinny jeans. So really added to it. Babe, it was the time. We were, Alana sent me something where like something happened and I was like, [45:34] You know what's going to happen when you're 70? Because this has now started to finally happen. Skinny jeans are going to come back around.

[45:44] And people are going to but people are going to be like, this is so cool. These these really tight skinny jeans. And you're going to say, you know, I used to wear it's wild. Like you're hoping, you know, because maybe I mean, remember skinny jeans. I mean, what what I'm trying to think of like out there still going out there. So I still see people in them. Yeah, I see millennials being like, fuck you. I don't care. I'm wearing skinny jeans. I feel organized and I don't like it. [46:09] Yeah, well, that's what I mean. It's just now it's like all the way around to if you're wearing skinny jeans, you're a confident person. Yeah. [46:15] You're, you know? [46:16] But I also had these straight down bangs for a lot of the show. Yeah. And I remember they would get, it'd be fully soaking wet. [46:25] Chopping wet bangs. Marcella would have to be like, you can try the bangs. That's so funny. That is so funny. And, um, [46:34] So guest stars, who comes to mind as people that when you just like pops in your head is like, oh, that was a fun day. That was a good moment. That was there's so many great people that came to the show. Like RuPaul just cracks me up. He was so he was so like studying his lines and saying them to himself that I was like, damn. And I would say. [46:55] Kelly Ripa. I mean, just the way, just her... [46:59] Being that version we wrote of her was wild. She was so excited too. Her joy was like, oh my God. She really wanted to be there and it was so... [47:11] It's contagious. And do you remember Lady Gaga tweeting about the show? How important that was? Yes, we were in the writer's room. That was a season two, end of season one. She was like, oh my God, they used my song. My favorite, I think it was like my favorite show used my song. And we met her. She like asked us to, you know, invited us to a performance and we like went on her bus. And like the thing she was saying. You didn't go on a bus? Yeah, it was like right outside the performance or whatever.

[47:41] Like you remind me when I watch your show, I feel like I'm not – [47:44] famous and I'm young again and like just running around the city before [47:49] All of this, which, you know, she was clearly grateful for, but also was clearly quite heavy. And it was so many years ago. It was like before now, she's like such a woman. We got her song. I mean, how did we even afford her song? How did we do that? I have no idea. We paid for it. But how did she like? [48:07] It was like if someone, someone involved liked the show, someone's manager or something. I don't know. [48:14] Whoopi. Whoopi came in today. Whoopi. BG. Wordless. That's right. She did sister Mary Fair. Yeah. That was wild. That was wild. And I remember like meeting her and being like, and she comes in the trailer. She is such a badass, like so herself the same. She's exactly who you'd think she is. And. [48:33] And I, like, we were just, like, acting totally cool. And we were also in stages that were, like, illegal and, like, an abandoned building, essentially. And I was, like, well, she was, like, leaving. And I was, like, thanks so much. It meant so much to me. And then I – she left. And I, like – [48:47] immediately like turned around and wept and like cried in rubble and like bushwick rubble that we were filming in for some reason um because she was so not only did she do our show but like such a real ass bitch such a like a comedy girl real woman oh my god shania twain i think about that a lot actually because we we got her to say man i feel like a smoothie i think about that a lot

[49:17] she was like that was like so crazy yeah she did that for I mean I mean [49:23] You're pointing at me. You. Oh, boy. I'm like, that should be a show. [49:28] That was the bear. [49:29] We did the bear before the bear. You did the bear before the bear. It's true. You're right. And for people, there was a scene where I was in the back of the kitchen and there was a whole drama with me and Seth Morris. You guys were exes. We were exes and we just created a little bit of a thing. And you're right. You know what? The bear stole... [49:47] The Bears stole from Broad City. You heard it here first. And you directed that. Yeah. I mean, what the fuck? What the fuck? [49:54] So we do this thing where we talk to people about our guests before they come on. And I was really trying to think about who I wanted to talk to. And what organically came up for me was Kim Lessing and Kate Arend, the producers, co-heads of Paper Kite, have worked together for 10 plus years. They are millennials and they started when Broad City was. [50:13] was I think Kate's second or third day was we were doing notes on like episode two of Broad City. So I [50:21] I asked them what... [50:24] they would want to know from you. And from a workplace perspective, they were curious, how did you two... [50:32] Keep your relationship, your actual relationship, [50:36] intimate friendship healthy while you were working together. [50:41] as you've gone on to work on other things. Like what [50:44] How do you keep your workplace healthy knowing what you know now and how did you do it then too? How do you like to work and what do you bring into your work to keep it healthy? As incredible as it was to make Broad City, it was like we would like always make sure to have a little time up top to connect and catch up. LOL, catch up from 12 hours ago or whatever it was. But like, you know, but like.

[51:07] It feels like so, I don't know, so human to now have dinner and just be... Lately, we have been crying so much. It's been so juicy and delicious and nutritious and sweet. But at the time, it was very much slotted in to catch up. And things would always... [51:26] make their way into the comedy, which is cool, but it's not the same as it being its own, just for the sake of its own beauty, you know? And I think we knew that the catching up [51:37] it was like the catching up was essential for the thing. [51:41] Like we knew that like it's so derived from us. So like we had to kind of. [51:47] like catch up and be like okay that's write that down for this thing what helped you during those times like what was the stuff you like did you pick your battles did you well i think like something also was like i'm thinking about it too because like there was tension like rise and release constantly and i think like a lot of it was like boundaries and space and being like see you later yeah and like taking the space well we didn't like hang out i think when we were doing it we [52:17] hanging out with friends. During Broad City, we couldn't. So it's almost like you had to put that a little bit aside, just like not let it atrophy, but not give it a lot of oxygen while you were doing the show. Yeah, it was very like after school. [52:29] club, you know what I mean? In that it's like this thing of like slotting in 45 minutes to talk before we focus. It's like, it wasn't, it is so,

[52:38] Like, it feels so beautiful now to, like, just not have a... [52:42] a task at hand, you know, um, [52:46] But during that time, even though we weren't on the weekends, I would be like, you know, if something was happening, I'd be like, Alana, I'm going on a date. Like, what am I? What do I wait? It wasn't like, don't speak to me. Sure. It was just like. [52:58] After truly like 12, 14 hours of Monday through Friday, we were like, let's not do dinner on Saturday. Who did you go on the date with and what did you wear? [53:07] Well, I do. I honestly will remember. I remember like this is post Broad City. I saw you the day before I met. [53:14] jody oh my god and i was like telling you what i'm gonna wear your beautiful wife jody and like wait tell us that story you were going on a date with you were in la and you were staying at liz's house and i was like i'm going on a date by going on a date it was like so deep covet of she was like coming over to my house to the patio and i was like i'm just gonna wear like i know what i wear i was like i'm just gonna wear a sweater and like black i don't know like we were still doing [53:44] It's really important. Yeah. Because it says a lot. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm not excited. I don't care. I want to have sex. I don't want to like, there's a ton of things happening. Yeah. Yeah. [53:53] And it worked. [53:54] Because you bagged that babe. Yep. You bagged that babe. That babe was obsessed. And y'all are so beautiful and romantic. Like, you're such a beautiful couple. Oh, my God. So, like, also hot.

[54:09] hot, hot as fuck. Beautiful. And, and both of you have had a very busy 10 years. You become a mom. Both of you have gotten married. Like you both done a ton of different projects that you're writing, creating, like there's so much that's happened. And [54:24] I guess I was curious, like, like, Alana, motherhood is a big creative thing. [54:32] center in a lot of your work. You talk about it a lot on stage. You made a movie about it, Babes. [54:38] You have this way in which you're like peeling that onion a lot. And what's, what's it brought? How is it in, how it is, how has it expanded you and your work? It just has organized everything for me appropriately. Things are just like in, in their right place now, like in my, in my heart. And it's been so creative and work also like, um, yeah. [55:02] is work. [55:03] It's not, and it's a creative context, but it's not like how I figure out who I am. It's a part of who I am. Yeah, I just feel correctly organized. That's very cool. Ab, what about the past? That's very cool. What about you, Ab, the past 10 years with all the different projects you're working on and worked on? How has that like changed your creative? Because, I mean, I'm curious about you as a fine artist too. I mean, you're like, you're... [55:31] You come from... [55:33] a fine art world. For people who don't know, in what way do you express yourself that way?

[55:41] Thank you. [55:42] And is it always changing? I don't do that that much anymore. You're good at drawing, girl. I, I, thank you. Do you want me to say it? I did. I went to art school. You went to art school. I went to art school and I, like, I... [55:54] I'm a big like goal of mine would be to do to get back into painting and do have like a show. What do you like about painting? [56:02] I think I'm in my head a lot. [56:06] which I think is something that we really... [56:09] bonded over. And it's very meditative for me. But like I've painted... [56:15] two and a half paintings in the past two years. You should say you're the painter that makes one painter a year and then everybody comes and watches you finish it. That's what a guy would do. I know. No, I'm dying to do it. Like it, I think it's just like, he'd be like, it's like so cool that I only do this much. I only do two and a half. Yeah. And everyone would be like, he's a genius. Yeah. A withholding genius. You're right. God, he's genius. It takes me a whole year to do it. [56:45] Yes, I forgot I told you all about it. You did the thing. I did the thing. Do you want to talk about it a little bit? Yeah, we're in the thick of it right now. Okay, so Prelude is this fellowship program I created with Mika Tennant, who's like my partner. And it's an eight-month program where there's 10 fellows that we select. And it's early, early, early career storytellers. And so there's 10. We set them up with mentors. And there's ongoing programming. They have mentorship every month.

[57:15] I run the program every month. I have people come in and talk where I ask them questions. Amy kicked it off, which was like they still talk about that. [57:25] They still cannot believe that you came. Of course. And so... [57:29] I'm realizing that [57:31] that like for me, like the successes that they have, [57:34] confidence in themselves. [57:36] And that's that's like that's like the best that we can like that would be like my goal. They all leave feeling like they have confidence and that they have they know that like someone believes in them, which like truly just to go back full circle, which is like what you did for us. Like and I said this to you on the day, I'm going to cry again when I had you like that. You believing in us and what we were doing, like I think is is what like has fueled us to. [58:02] do everything we've done since. And I'm like, if I could do that for them, that is... [58:09] Yeah, that is so cool, Abby. So awesome. And it really does feel kind of like, I know I'm crying again, everybody who's listening crying again. And I just want to ask, [58:19] about good night and good luck because alana it's very exciting like a broadway debut is it's such a singular goal did you have it did you ever have that goal um did you want to be on broadway [58:33] Like, I am. I mean, I am accentuating the way Broadway. I know. A bunch of comedians supposed to be Broadway talking about Broadway. [58:43] It wasn't really in my like I didn't think about it as especially since I had a child. It's so time consuming. And since I've like kind of got my stand up and touring, like now I like get it.

[58:57] how to do it, how I do it. Like, so, so Broadway, like you're so like in someone else's control. I [59:05] It was it was such an incredible experience. You know, it reminds me of Broad City. And then also before that, the early days of comedy, you're just seeing the same people night after night after night. George Clooney was a co-writer and star of this. How is our man George? [59:23] An angel. An angel. He is an angel. He is my hero. He is my hero from like the personal human being to the public figure. He is. Oh, my gosh. It was such a. [59:36] such a privilege to perform his writing. And, you know, we don't have to get into it, but you had a beautiful relationship. [59:44] in League of Their Own. What was the [59:46] best takeaway of that show? Oh, I was just talking to Darcy about it. I know. The great Darcy Carlin. The most kissable. I know. And just so... So it makes sense. She was kissable. [59:58] So funny. Because I was like... Because I kissed Paul so much on Broad City. And then I was like, I guess I'm going to kiss another one of my really close friends. Listen, we kiss our friends. But it also is like... I found like... [1:00:11] I don't know. Like, I don't know. I think I'll do that forever of like, you're, I'm in love with my friends and like, there's already that chemistry there. Yeah. Um, but yeah. [1:00:21] Thank you. [1:00:22] I guess in the middle, in the middle of Broad City is when I was like, oh, wow, I think I like women too. Um, which was like, obviously Lana was like very much there for me during that. Of course. And then I was like, like everything else. I want to put that in the show. Right. And that was very much in the show with Clea who, yeah. Uh, like that was so fun. And I was so happy that that lined up to get to have that on Broad City. And it was like, truly us, like getting to explore what was happening to me was happening with Abby. And like,

[1:00:51] Differently, but the same, which was... [1:00:54] which was incredible to be able to do that. And then on League, like, I loved making that show. It was very hard work. [1:01:02] In a lot of different ways as a period show is like baseball. It was the inner workings of. [1:01:09] Amazon is not Comedy Central. That was, there was a lot more money. And at the end of the day, I was like, I'm writing this ensemble and everybody, like, it is just a bigger sort of like friend group. And so I was like that, like to expand that into like a group was like incredible. And then to get to write this love story. Mm-hmm. [1:01:28] With Darcy was like, it was a dream. People really responded to that relationship and that story. Yeah. It's been a really cool, it's kind of like on the street kind of thing. I'm like, I know which one you're going to say based on what you look like. And having made comedy for so long, what's your relationship to comedy now? What do you watch... [1:01:53] read, go to, like, how do you make yourself laugh? [1:01:57] Right now. What's making you laugh? Who's making you laugh? Like, what's the what's the place when the world is getting really intense that you like, where do you escape? Yeah. [1:02:07] I have a hard time. Yeah. And so I have two things. [1:02:11] But I don't – I have a hard time finding them, so I'm very interested. Okay, so I just saw – [1:02:19] This just, I just, last week I saw Caperland's new show. Oh, wow. At the Bell House. I mean, I haven't laughed that much.

[1:02:28] Thank you. [1:02:29] Uh... [1:02:30] in a long time. Oh, so live Kate Berlant. Recommend. She's on tour, I think, right, starting now. And then the show I'm watching that I'm obsessed with that, like, Brooke told me about. Yeah, Brooke Posh. Brooke Posh. Instrumental in the early Brad City. Yeah. [1:02:46] Big boys. [1:02:47] You've seen Big Boys? No, nothing. Okay, hold on. I'm Googling right now. It's so good. It's on Hulu. It's from the UK. Okay. It's so good. [1:02:56] And it's like the mix of like, it's so funny and really... [1:02:59] heart. Like there's heart. It's like, it got me. Okay. So it's a, it's a sitcom. Yeah. Two boys from very different ends of the spectrum of masculinity become best friends at Brent University freshers week in their first year at university. They explore, experiment and try to discover themselves. Yeah. I've never read the description. That's what it is. All right. And, um, Alana, what are you listening to? How do you check out or laugh or [1:03:24] I've been really, it's like, I, I, I want to see Kate's show. I really love like what my friends are making like hacks. I've been, I still have to catch up on season four, but that's been really killing me in like a good way where I'm just like, Oh, this is so good. And so funny. I'm like living, I'm dying. You know what I mean? And also that like the last time I laughed so hard was at, Oh Mary. I just, I just died. I'm like starting to get into like old movies though. Um, [1:03:52] I just watched Prince of Tides. [1:03:56] Okay, not so much funny. David wants to watch all of Barbara Streisand's stuff because we have like...

[1:04:03] biographies of little [1:04:05] for a little kid books. And we're like looking at Barbara and reading her life story. And we're like, let's just watch the catalog. Oh, my God. And she's so stunning, dude. Sweet man. Her nails in Prince of Tides. She directed that. She directed it. Did that. And Nick Nolte? [1:04:20] Like the gorgeous. Yeah. And to see, first of all, she's so hot and beautiful. Yeah. And I'm like looking up in Wikipedia and doing the math. She's like 53. [1:04:30] In a [1:04:31] And she directed herself and is like, yeah, I'm fucking gorgeous. And so – [1:04:36] jewish okay she's a psychiatrist she's like dean would she say prince of toys would it be toys it's just like get it bitch get it okay she has a bio that just came out autobiography and her and you should hear her do the the book i heard the audiobook yeah she's incredible barbara [1:04:59] We know you're watching. Yeah. And listening. Barbara, please come. Please. Dude. That would be a dream. That would be such a good guest. Barbara, when Tina and I did the movie Sisters. [1:05:09] Her husband, James Brolin, played our dad. And my parents visited the set one day. And my mom was like, I wonder if Barbara Streisand's ever going to come. And I was like, Mom, Barbara's not going to come visit. You know, on Long Island, the set of Sisters, her husband is an actor. And she did. And it was the day my mother was there. Yes. Wow. She came to visit. She just came to drop by to see her gorgeous, loving husband, James. And my mom was like, I told you. And I was like, this doesn't happen all the time.

[1:05:39] Don't get used to this. Did they have a moment? They did. I mean, they had like a little hello. She was lovely and very, very lovely to us. And you're right. We don't talk. Barbara, when you come on, let's talk about your, the things you've directed. I want to talk to you just as a director. Like truly, it was so cool. And, you know, learning like how to light yourself as a woman in your 40s and your 50s and your 60s. Just be like, just like make it soft. Just like feel. She is like irresistible. [1:06:09] hot. I had a Broad City moment the other day that I was, it felt very Broad City. Speaking of lighting yourself as I was shooting something, and I was looking at the monitor and I said, can I just take a peek to see where you are at with lighting? And the young director of the piece said, oh, don't worry, you look great. [1:06:27] And I was like, can I give you a little feedback? I think when women, especially my age, ask for the monitor, they're [1:06:37] saying, don't worry, you look great is not helpful. Like it's not, it's not like we're being [1:06:41] faint or insecure or like we're just like trying to tweak just what like we would our voice or performance like we kind of we have a sense of like how we're going to feel comfortable and how we want to come across like lighting is a big thing. [1:06:55] deal. I don't think he understands, this person understands [1:06:59] I think he's actually... [1:07:01] trying to make me feel better. I totally get it, but it's just like, [1:07:07] LOL, bro. LOL, bro. I mean, OMG, LOL, bro. Did you get to see?

[1:07:14] Huh? Did you get to see friends? Of course. Of course. You just, all you do is you go like, yes. I mean, it's always, it's always, and this is very broad city. It's always like, how much in the moment do you want to like. [1:07:25] Correct. [1:07:27] And how much do you want to just like, you know, [1:07:29] It is, I mean, I think what we're talking about today is the reason why people love the show is they feel like there's like people looking out for each other, sticking up for each other, taking care of each other. There's a community in the show. There's like a vibe. And then what that does, it allows you to do that for yourself. Like that's, and then you become your own advocate for yourself. That's what the characters did. That's right. I had a Broad City moment on Saturday too. I don't know if it has a big culmination like this, but I went to a premiere and I went alone. [1:07:57] Okay. Which is wild. And then I went to the party after and I was like, I'm going to schmooze and all those. And I, and I knew someone and I was like, okay, we're eating, we get a bite. And then we're going up to the bar. I was like, let's get a drink. And we go to get a drink. And they were like, um, they were like, you know what? I don't want to hold the martini. I have to pee. I'm going to go pee. And I was like, all right, well, what do you want? I'll get it. And I get the drink. [1:08:27] this premiere i get the two martinis and then they never came back so i truly was like i was like standing with two dirty martinis and i was like and i was like looking like a true drunk people would come up to me and then i i told jody later i was like oh god like people will come up to me that i knew and then people come up to me that love broad city

[1:08:52] me holding the two martinis and I was like, I'm fucking Abby. I'm fucking Abby. And I was wearing a thing where I kind of had to keep adjusting it. Finally, I was like... [1:09:03] this one looks better. And I was like, started drinking. I was like, I abandoned. And then how many minutes would you say that you were double fisting martinis? I would say too many. I would probably say 20. Yo. Yeah. Okay. Well, I was like, she's going to come back here. And what am I? And then I was like, this is good. Martini. [1:09:24] They made it. [1:09:25] Like they made, I didn't pay for it, but I was like, Abby, like it was so, they made it. What am I going to put in my, I'm going to waste a martini. And then I was like, I get banned in it. And then I was like, I was like, I'm leaving in the spirit of like self-improvement. If it was 20 this time, how many minutes will you give it next time? [1:09:43] you know, there's no world in which I'm getting the drink. [1:09:45] When someone goes to the bathroom next time, I think I'd be like a correction. I'll see you when you get back. I'm gonna get myself a drink. And Alana, have you had an Alana moment recently? Is there something that happens where you're like, oh, this is an Alana moment? [1:09:57] Mm. [1:09:58] I have one that I can't say that I'll tell you after. Oh, you can't. Oh, I want to know it. It's naughty. I want to tell us. Have you had an Abby moment? Us filling it in might be more fun. Kind of like what you were talking about with your show. Like us filling in what your Alana moment is. Oh, yeah. It's like dot, dot, dot, dot, babe. Yeah, let's leave it at that. But I'll tell you after. Okay. Well, dot, dot, dot it is. I love you, too. Thank you so much for doing this. I love talking about the show. I love talking about what's next. You always were.

[1:10:28] will be not from not, oh, Amy Poehler, she's an icon. No, from the fucking in the flesh, delicious, forever eight-year-old person that you are, mother that you have always been to us, big sister, just friend. You're just incredible. We're so grateful. Thank you for letting this eight-year-old be your producer. She did it. She did it good. Thank you, guys. [1:10:53] Thank you, Abby and Alana. Thank you for coming and doing the pod. It was so, so great to talk to you. And it's just a delight always to see the two of you together. And today's Polar Plunge is brought to you by Wayfair, here to help you make your home your happy place. So as we plunge today, I just want to remind everybody. [1:11:13] about the podcast that Kim Lessing and Kate Aaron mentioned at the top of the show. [1:11:18] Two women who run Paper Kite Productions, the company that is my production company and that made Broad City and many other things. They have a show called Million Dollar Advice. And we would love to hear your questions about your workplace questions that they can answer. So please send them in to milliondollaradvicepod at gmail.com. Milliondollaradvicepod at gmail.com. [1:11:47] Head over to Wayfair.com and find something that's just your style today. That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com. Wayfair. Every style.

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