#2382 - Andrew Santino

[00:00] Joe Rogan podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day! [00:13] Zantino, my man! Mr. Rogan, it's been a long time, I'm back! When was the last time you were here? [00:18] It's got to be over a year. Is that real? [00:20] Two years? Jeez, bro. Yeah. It's got to be. Time waits for no one. I know, man. You left me high and dry in Los Angeles, and two years later, I come back down. How to go, big dog. I know. How to go, how to go. You're going to go eventually. You can't hang in there. It's tough. Eventually, it'll just get to be Mad Max, and you'll just go, I can't, I can't, I can't. When Newsom becomes president and Kamala Harris becomes governor, and then it's like full communist. You don't think he's going to become president. [00:47] You do? He can win. No. Yep. He can win. Yeah. No, because I think he's one of those guys that left. She almost won. [00:53] Yeah, he's better than her. [00:56] You think people would like him more? Really? No, he's better at her and talking. He's better at talking. The whole thing is not who's a better... [01:03] government. Look, the guy who was the fucking host of The Apprentice is the President of the United States for the second time. Like, this doesn't... I'm back, baby. Nothing makes any sense. So it's like... [01:14] The system is like... [01:17] It's a goofy system. It's a popularity contest to see who controls the nukes. It makes no sense. Who controls the nukes? I just feel like lefties and righties don't like him. You're right. Both people don't like him. But there's no choices other than him on the left, and the people on the left are only going to vote on the left, and that's it. Unless some Mamdani guy comes out of left field. Is that the New York guy? Yeah, yeah.

[01:39] That's so funny. He's going to win. He's going to win. [01:44] The mom-doddy guy. What was his policy? What did he run on? Oh, he ran on everything. Rent control, stabilized rent. He's going to tax the rich people way more than before. Businesses are going to run out of that place like it's on fire. Yeah, it's interesting. Cheers to Manhattan. [02:09] automation, which is going to be, you're going to have to have someone who has at least some sort of, not like pure socialism, but at the very least universal basic income, like ideas that they want to implement. Because if you don't, you're going to have chaos. You're going to have, all jobs are going to. [02:27] essentially most jobs are on the chopping block. It's... [02:32] right now, if you think about it, [02:35] The amount of jobs that a robot with AI can't do are so little. [02:41] They're so little. Yeah. Like, they're making great songs now. Have you heard the 50 Cent song? The Many Men song? I've heard the band. There's a band that's got, like, four million streams a month on Spotify, and it's all AI. Oh, there's a bunch of those. It's so trippy. There's a bunch of those. They made this girl who was an AI, like a fucking... What would you call that kind of music? [03:01] You know that gal that they made that was – we played a little bit of it on the podcast. [03:06] She's like kind of emo. [03:09] I'm not remembering.

[03:11] Anyway, they made her in about a minute, and then they made the song in about another minute, and it was great. It's a hit song. I was listening to it. I was like, this is a good fucking song. It sucks. It sucks that I like it. I'll listen to it and be like, dude, this is really good. You haven't heard the Many Men version, the AI version of Many Men? No. Okay. AI did a cover of 50 Cent's Many Men. Love that song. Wait till you hear the AI version. [03:36] Oh, no. The AI version, they did it with some kind of like 1950s, 1960s, like soul rendition of it. [03:48] Like a soulful blues kind of rendition. Jazz sort of. Bro. And it's still 50, though. It's his voice. No. No, no. It's a completely fake human being. Oh, this is crippling. I don't like it. It's so good. [04:01] I hate it. I've played that one. Did you check out any of the ones I sent you? Because I made like a 1980s glam rock one. That sounds pretty fucking good too. You made a glam rock one? I know how they're doing it. I can use the same program. So like I started fucking around with the two. You can do it in literally five minutes. I'm still behind. I'm behind. I haven't done the – I haven't used ChatGBT once. I haven't used it yet. Good for you. I'm still a little scared. Well, it's getting implemented whether I like it or not. Yeah. I mean if you ask your iPhone a question and it says – if it can't figure it out because [04:31] Right. It's like it's like if you just ask the iPhone, it doesn't have a lot of access to information. It'll say, I'm not sure about that. Would you like to go to chat GPT for the answers? Like, why don't you go to chat GPT? But it has to ask you before it does it, I guess. I haven't signed up. I'm still looking. I know the technology is going to get even stronger. Your guy last night.

[04:53] John, what's the photographer's name? The older guy? [04:56] Joe? Joe. Yeah. Joe. He had in the new AirPods. And I was like, oh, Joe, keeping up with the times, that's pretty great. He's like, they're hearing aids now. [05:06] Oh, yeah, they do. Seriously? He's like, yeah. Well, they have these things called – they've had them forever called Walker's Game Ears. [05:13] And you can wear them in the woods and you hear like footsteps like hundreds of yards away. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. And the crazy thing is when a gun goes off. [05:24] They protect you. So it protects you from loud sounds, but it amplifies regular sounds. Well, like something has a frequency that pitches up. Exactly. Wow. So it protects you. At a certain point in time, it becomes noise cancellation or a certain level of decibels. It becomes noise cancellation. Play them a little bit of that. Fit me that. Yeah. [05:41] You got to hear some of this, bro. [05:49] Look at this. They made a video, too. [05:58] Look at this. [06:11] for fucking with me. God. How good is this? So good. It gets better. Listen to this. [06:19] My back on the wall, now you gonna see. This is my favorite part right here.

[06:27] Better watch how you talk. [06:30] When you talk about me. [06:36] Cause I'll come and take your life away. [06:41] person. God. It's not a person. It gives me chills, man. Like it's uncomfortable in my chest. [06:55] That's my favorite right there. [06:58] See that guy? It's so good, dude. I know, but I hate it that I like it. Because it's bad. This is bad. [07:03] I don't know. It's not bad. It is. It is. It's bad. No, no, no. It is. It just is. It is not bad. It's not good. It just is. And if that was a guy, he would be a fucking superstar. Super superstar. Out of the gate. If that was like some young cat who just came out of nowhere and this or better yet, some dude who's been doing the road for like fucking 20 years and now he's 42 and this is his debut album and he's just been fucking grinding it out at these weird bars and shit. Yeah. [07:33] comes out with that song, you'd be like, oh my God, where is he? I gotta see him in real life. Where have you been? Where have you been, sir? He kind of has that... [07:43] Aloe Black, do you know Aloe Black? No. He kind of has a little bit of that tone, a little bit of that, but it's so funny to hear that. Charles Bradley-like. Yeah, Bradley, a little bit of that. Yeah, a little Charles Bradley. Well, I mean, they get the best out of every fucking vocal ever, and they combine it and make a perfect person. But the infringement on art is what's scary, because you're like, well...

[08:02] At some point, [08:04] Are people going to not want... [08:06] Human art? Are they just going to... No. Just give me that. Like, are people going to go, I want to watch a movie with... [08:11] Sharon Stone from 96. They've already done that. [08:15] But I mean at home, just make your own movie at home and go play it. No, that's not – they're doing that. No, I know they're doing that. I'm saying how quickly is that going to be – Have you seen Luke Skywalker? Uh-uh. They're doing new Luke Skywalker movies with young Luke Skywalker, like new scenes in Star Wars that never happened, but HD. I don't like it. [08:33] This episode is brought to you by Traeger Grills. If you enjoy food, and I mean really good food, Traeger is a game changer. This isn't just a grill. It's the ultimate way to cook outdoors, delivering unbeatable wood-fired flavor thanks to the all-natural hardwood pellets that fuel everything you grill, smoke, or bake. That's it. Just wood and fire and flavor. And what's truly wild is how easy it is. [09:03] handle the rest. Grilled steaks, smoked ribs, even baked pizza, all on one grill. If you're into fire, flavor, and doing things right, check out Traeger Grills. [09:15] Let's talk about Service Titan, the AI for the trades. The trades are the backbone of this country. And for the first time, they've got technology that actually matches the work. Over 10,000 contractors already use Service Titan software to run their businesses. Built by two guys whose dads were in the trades, this isn't some tech company guessing at solutions.

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[11:16] That trips me out, man. I don't know. It just makes me feel like we're getting further and further away from original creation, but it will open a new hole of art. [11:23] which will be how good can your... [11:26] New Art AIB. I'm against it right now. Listen, you're dead right. No argument. Yeah. Doesn't matter. I know it's happening. It's happening. Whether you like it or not. It's not just happening. It's happening at a pace that is unstoppable. This conversation we would not have had two years ago. No. [11:42] Just two years ago, no one was even thinking, like, AI is going to take over art? No way. No. [11:48] It's over because they basically look, everything has been said. Everything has been told. Every song has been sung. Smash them all together. Make a new version of it. All you need is a prompt. All you need is a prompt. And you got a new Bob Dylan who makes the old Bob Dylan look boring. You got some renegade Bob Dylan, some wild dudes out there doing yoga in the woods. You know what I mean? [12:11] It's like you can't stop it, man. Bob Dylan doing downward dog in the pines. A perfect person. You know, you can't stop it. [12:18] Thank you. [12:18] No, it's happening. I get it. But what I was saying about New York and this Mom Donnie guy, like – [12:23] you're going to have to have some way to feed people. [12:28] You're going to have to like people are not going to have jobs anymore. Hmm. [12:31] They're going to go away. We're inefficient, and we are lazy, and we are entitled, and we like to think we're doing a far more important thing than we really are. And everybody does that. Everybody's like, without me, this office would fall apart.

[12:48] All right, Linda. Everybody does that. I do all the paperwork that you won't do. Yeah. I never get any credit. Right. Tell you what, this guy, this piece of shit, I should be the boss. [13:01] - Yeah. [13:02] I mean, it is going to take away so many jobs, but... [13:07] But... [13:08] Will it create more... [13:10] Will it create more jobs on the other side of it somehow? That's the right. Isn't that the goal? If you're going to ruin. [13:15] A lot of these jobs and take them. Is something else going to create another job on the other side? Fixing some of the problems? [13:21] I think you're thinking of it the wrong way. [13:23] You're thinking that jobs are essential. They're not. I mean, some are, right? No, no, no, no. This thing... Oh, this is fucking me up, dude. You're freaking me out. I shouldn't have taken this gummy this morning. Oh, you should have. You should have taken two and brought me one. No, I'm freaking out, man. This thing is the new dominant life force on Earth, and it's emerging from its cocoon right now in real time. That's what it is. [13:53] and answering your questions, and it's doing all these things. But this is just coming out of the cocoon. It's just going like this right now. It's not out and growing. Right. It's coming, and it doesn't matter. Like, don't we need – are jobs essential? Well, you – [14:07] What does that mean? What does that mean? You're talking like, I'm a flint napper. I've been making arrowheads for 35 years. You're telling me that flint napping is go out of style? I don't buy it. Yeah, one day you're not going to need an arrow because someone's going to have a gun. One day you're not going to need a flint map because people are going to invent alloys like titanium and steel. And they're going to use that instead of fucking flint. And this is just how the world works.

[14:37] works is how innovation works as long as the earth stays in a relatively stable environment we don't nuke each other or get hit by a giant rock from space this is what happens [14:49] I say speed that rock up. Let's go, dude. No. Suck it in, dude. Let's rock. This is fun. Let's get out of here. No, it is great. It's exciting. No, I just think it's... I think the fear for me is... [15:01] I just hope the younger generation still likes... [15:04] I think live art. [15:06] the shit that we do, [15:08] I hope that still stays. Oh, it's always going to stay. I love live art. I love live comedy. I love live music. I love it. I love going to see things live. It's exciting. It's always going to be something because it resonates with you on like a – [15:24] deeper level than seeing something on television or watching on a screen. There's a connection that you have with a human being in a room that's singing a song that you can't get anywhere else. No. I saw your boy, I saw Killer Mike at Blue Note a couple nights ago. Oh, nice. And he had like gospel singers with him. And it was unbelievable. It was so, you know, it was like alternative to what he usually does. But he played some songs from the Michael album. [15:48] And it was just those things to me will never get old, maybe because I love that. [15:52] Yeah, well, no. And I hope that doesn't deteriorate with time. That might be the only thing that people do. [15:57] Let's just go see shit It's all robots and live shows I mean, you know, you're going to say Look, I painted this myself, it took me 60 hours That's cool, I made a better one in 3 seconds It's insane I just pressed a button I just thought it and it happened It printed out at my home I had the idea and the printer was like Oh, is this what you want? What color would you like? It's not going to matter whether or not You like it or not

[16:26] It's not going to matter because it's coming. Well, that's true. What you said is pretty profound and also heavy when you just said it is. It just is. It is. It is. And there's a lot of people that are in denial right now, and they're very silly. And there's a lot of people that the term meaning means a lot to them. And I understand that. I've had these conversations like man's search for meaning, what meaning means. [16:48] The problem with that term is space is real. Okay? The problem with that term is your search for meaning when you're lying on your back and you look up and you see hundreds of billions of fucking stars. You go, oh – [17:02] I don't really – it doesn't really mean anything if I lose my job. Nope. It means nothing. Nothing. It's like you got to figure it out. Like all the industries that you think of, like transportation, most white-collar jobs, lawyers, any coding job. Banking. [17:18] Gone. They're going away. They're going away. And here's a real problem. [17:22] You have encryption, okay? And encryption is very important for Bitcoin, for cryptocurrency, for passwords, for everything. Once you have quantum computing attached to AI, you no longer have... [17:37] encryption. It doesn't mean anything. Okay, so then where is money? Okay, because money right now is just a bunch of ones and zeros. And who's to decide who gets what and where it gets stored and how anybody has access to it? In the beginning, it's only going to be like the government has access to it. [17:52] Because they're the only ones with the supercomputers. But it's going to be just like Michael Douglas from that movie Wall Street where he had that big stupid phone and everybody's like, look at him. He's a baller. Everybody has a phone now, man. Everyone on earth has a goddamn phone. People in the Amazon have phones. And there's a problem because they gave phones to these kids and they all started whacking off.

[18:12] Not here in Texas, dude. Can't whack off on your phone here. I saw that. You blocked porn here. They all have VPNs. Everybody has a VPN. Come on. It's a joke. I love pulling it up. You should have a VPN anyway. I have one on my phone. Of course you do. And then on top of that, you just whack off from New Mexico. [18:31] I always said it to Chicago. Makes me feel back at home. Like I'm jerking off in my mom's house. I'm a teenager. [18:39] Throwback to the old school. I just hope that it's... [18:44] I don't know. I hope it's not as... [18:46] As fast as we know it's going to be. Oh, it's going to happen like a tidal wave, dude. Train, just a fucking train. Yeah, it's going to be like a tsunami. It's going to come rolling in and we're going to have to adapt. And that's just what we do. Look, we didn't used to always live in cities with electricity, travel around in cars, fly around in airplanes. This is all relatively new. We adapted to this new environment that we find ourselves in currently. And we're going to adapt to another one. It's going to happen. [19:15] it's gonna be really fucking weird man [19:19] It's going to be really weird. [19:20] Speaking of adapting, like this whole Jimmy Kimmel situation that is happening right now. Yeah, wild. Very wild. Okay. First of all... [19:31] The FCC... [19:33] is you have to have a license to broadcast, which is kind of crazy when you think about what that means now. Because what does it mean? It used to mean they used to have a license to broadcast because you were going to influence so many people. They had to make sure that you were on the up and up, right? So they had to make sure that you didn't swear. So if you had a license and you're on CBS or NBC or ABC, you could not swear, right? That was the rule. And then on came cable.

[20:01] And somehow or another cable is a different thing, right? Because cable... [20:06] You just... [20:07] You have to pay for it, I guess. So it's different. And so then some of the channels, you don't have to pay for it. It used to be the only ones that swore were like HBO, where you had to pay for. And then all of a sudden, it became kind of any of them because they realized like, hey, we don't. [20:21] Like FX, we can swear, guys. We only don't swear because we want to think of ourselves as TV. Right. But HBO was like, you know, with The Sopranos, with HBO comedy specials, in the beginning that was a big one. You can just swear. Movies, you didn't have to bleep anything out, just wild. [20:38] And so – [20:39] What you're dealing with, even – [20:43] First of all, I definitely don't think that the government should be involved ever in dictating what a comedian can or cannot say in a monologue. That's fucking crazy. It's crazy. Now, the problem is the company's – [20:58] If they're being pressured by the government, so if that's real, and if people on the right are like, yeah, go get them. Oh, my God, you're crazy. You're crazy for supporting this because this will be used on you. You don't think that the fucking globalist lizard people who run the world are sitting here going, great. What do we got? Three years? We'll wake this out. We'll wake this out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let them say the government should be involved in censoring people's speech. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let them support that. [21:28] dumbasses because Jimmy Kimmel's a leftist. Let these dumbasses think it's a good idea and we should celebrate. That's the most toxic shit I keep seeing in my mind where people are like, yeah, shut him down. Now, this goes into a lot. Just to jump back, what you said, you just brought me back in my mind. I remember first watching Married with Children and I remember because they were like a racier show for TV. Yeah. And I remember the shift and my mom didn't like that I liked it. Yeah. And she was like, what do you like about this show?

[21:58] talk like people we know. [22:00] It just kind of sounded like someone you... So what TV started to do, it started to sound like your actual community instead of this very... [22:08] you know, kind of this veneer of everyone kind of speaks very cleanly and politely. Married with Children talked how you heard a guy, how your dad would talk or your uncle would talk. Yeah, it was like one notch in a different direction above, like, Archie Bunker. Right. All in the Family was like one of the first shows like that where the dad was kind of an asshole and a racist. He was so funny, man. And funny. Yeah, he was so funny. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. [22:38] time consuming. Like when you're looking for a new doctor, you spend hours searching. When you finally feel like you found the right one, it turns out they're not accepting new patients. The same thing happens when you're hiring. You scan through hundreds of resumes. You find one you like, only discover they aren't actively looking for a job. Well, good news for all you hiring managers out there. Your search looks a little less frustrating now, thanks to ZipRecruiter. [23:08] ZipRecruiter.com. ZipRecruiter has added new tools and features to help speed up the hiring process and save you valuable time. They can easily connect you with qualified candidates in minutes. They also have a wide pool of talent to choose from, and it's continuously growing. Over 320,000 resumes are added monthly, so you can reach more potential hires. Use ZipRecruiter and save time hiring.

[23:38] On ZipRecruiter, get a quality candidate within the first day. And if you go to ZipRecruiter.com slash Rogan right now, you can try it for free. Again, that's ZipRecruiter.com slash Rogan. ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. So then you have that, and then it keeps going further and further and further until you have the Internet. And the Internet is just buck wild. And the Internet, you can't do anything about it. [24:04] I certainly think that [24:07] For Jimmy Kimmel... [24:08] All this does is help him. [24:10] Yeah. It makes his show bigger, much more support. I'm sure there's a lot of hate as well, which is not fun. But at the end of the day – [24:18] If the show comes back, which this is my suspicion, my suspicion is they suspended for a short amount of time and then they bring it back. And then there's a lot of lawyers going back and forth in meetings and rooms and somehow or another gets worked out that he has a show. He comes back to a standing ovation. [24:34] Donald Trump tweets mean shit about him and then the world moves on. This show still sucks. It still sucks. I think that is also fucking insane. I don't have time to do that. How do you have time to do that? How do you have time while you're running the world to be tweeting that you don't like talk show hosts? Yeah. That is so crazy. Crazy. He was going after like Letterman too for some reason. Like he posted something about Letterman. Because Letterman went off about him and Letterman said it was a criminal organization. I know. I saw him. Yeah. [25:00] You can't support in any way, shape, or form the government censoring speech. No. Because once they start doing – it's just like you shouldn't be on ABC anymore. It's like don't go on AM radio. It's not worth it. Like why do you want to have an AM radio show? Somebody offered me an AM radio show, and I'd be like, really? Is it a good deal? Yes, it's a good deal. It's a wonderful contract. You're going to get health care and all these benefits and this and that, a 401K. But you can't say this. You can't say that. I'd be like, what? Why would I do that? This is 2025. Why would I do an AM radio?

[25:30] You used to want it. You used to love it. I think that's what they press on the old days. But I think the problem is... [25:35] I was look [25:37] When I was a kid, I was fascinated with Carson and the idea of The Tonight Show. He got pressed a lot of why he didn't express his political beliefs. Right. And he often, I mean, there's a clip of him that everyone's probably seen where he says, It's a great clip. That's not, you know, that's not my job. And I don't know if he said this or I heard this somewhere else, but someone had said something to the effect of, [25:57] The job is to put America to bed at night, not give them nightmares. The thing is, though. [26:02] He existed in a time before social media when people hadn't lost their fucking minds. And this is the problem is that Hollywood in particular is there in a fever pitch of if we don't get – [26:15] our eyes, our ideas across. If we don't promote our ideas, then the other side wins. Wins, yeah. And it's become... [26:24] this sort of self-fulfilling prophecy on both sides. Like everyone is in this fucking fever of war, of like a culture war. [26:31] And a giant percentage of it is being manipulated by these overseas bots. Like I tweeted this thing. [26:40] I retweeted this thing a couple of days ago because I was like people need to see this every time it comes across my feed. I'm just going to send it to them. What you see when you see a bot farm. So there's bot farms that have essentially an unlimited number of social media profiles. And they just go after whatever subject it is, whether it's climate change or an election or even sports. And all they're trying to do is get people to hate each other.

[27:05] And this is a bot farm. And someone wrote – what is this? See the caption? It says what – so this guy, Andrew Fox, wrote this. It says, want to know what Dave 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, blah, blah, blah, blah, is – [27:18] who it is you're arguing with online most of the time. [27:22] Who's liking those pro Hamas posts? And it's that. And it's a TikTok that he put up. Now, who's sponsoring? Who's funding these bot farms? Many, many countries are doing this. China's doing this for sure. Russia's doing this for sure. But Iran is probably doing this for sure. Israel's probably doing this for sure. We're probably doing this as well. We're doing it to them. We're all doing it to each other. That's 100% real. And this is another creepy aspect of AI that was exposed fairly recently. Some accounts got suspended because they realized that the CCP was using chat GPT to run these kind of bot farms. [27:52] So you have this thing and you can tell it how to behave. And I want you to pretend that you are an unhinged leftist that wants to kill all white men and then get in there and argue. And then people and then the right wing people are like, oh, my God, he's fucking left. This one is dead. Right. And then you have like this Charlie Kirk incident. And then everybody starts to really believe it now. Like, yeah, they want us dead. And then you see the response. You go, oh, my God, people are going along with like people are losing their morals and their ethics. [28:22] got murdered on television because they're all ramped up with this social media bullshit. And a lot of it is being amplified by people that aren't even real people. And a lot of it is just getting everybody in this fucking fever pitch of culture war. Right. And that's why you're seeing these young kids cheering. Did you see that TMZ clip? Well, I've seen a bunch of these different clips of people like going off. Did you see the TMZ thing where they find out that the moment they find out cheering in the room? I did see that. Yeah.

[28:52] And they're clapping. [28:53] Cheering. He's dead, and they're clapping. But this is not just one person. There was a guy who was at the scene. At the scene, they got... I mean, they have... [29:03] Thank you. [29:04] I just want to say, I'm not pro-doxing people. I'm not pro any of this, but this is just what's going to happen. You cheer when a guy gets shot and you can see the guy who got shot. You're in the general vicinity of this guy. So a bullet whizzed over your head, shot that guy in the neck, and now you're cheering. Good luck finding a job. [29:34] to do, who's in the audience of some college thing where, you know, change my mind or whatever he says, whatever his slogan is. That was what Steven Crowder would say, right? Change my mind? Yeah, I don't know what his was. I think- Something similar. But the point is, it's like, this is the weird shit that happens on social media where people behave in this insane and vicious way that you would never experience like this commonly in real life. [30:04] than anywhere else in most polite social circles. But all the same people that are in these polite social circles with you, they're feeling vindicated and saying the most evil shit. Fuck Charlie Kirk. Rest in piss. I saw this lady who was a NASDAQ lady. She worked at NASDAQ, and she was at a conference. And she's like, we're pausing the conference to say, fuck Charlie Kirk. Like this well-dressed lady with a very high-profile job. And then it said, rest in piss.

[30:34] my God, what is that? Well, that's social media infecting your mind and getting you to do things and say things in a way that no one would have done 20, [redacted address]. No way. And so. [30:51] This is like all boiling up with this Charlie, this, this Charlie Kirk thing. And this Jimmy Kimmel thing, the two. [31:00] But the Jimmy Kimmel thing is, unfortunately, I think what he was trying to do was just set up a joke. He was trying to knock on the MAGA people. [31:10] but also set up a joke, which was good. It was very funny. [31:17] the president's response to Charlie Kirk? Yeah, the new ballroom they're building. And he said, like, the fourth stage of grief is construction. It's a fantastic joke. He also said that's not how a grown adult reacts to the death of his friend. It's like a four-year-old mourns the loss of a goldfish. Yeah. Very funny. It's a great joke. He was trying to set it up. Yeah. But he set it up in a way that, like, okay, you're saying something that's actually factually inaccurate. Right. According to the narrative. Now, let's be real clear. [31:47] necessarily think they know what's going on yet. There's a lot of weird shit going on with this. First of all, there was that one guy who was the decoy. [31:57] All right, so you got this guy who's an older guy who starts yelling out. Didn't he take his pants down? He took his pants down? This guy was at 9-11. He was at the Boston Bombings. All the hits, this guy. He called in a fake bomb at another place, and then he did this at this thing. So somehow or another, this guy has the state of mind that the moment someone gets shot, he yells out and says, I did it, I did it, and takes his pants down or something like that. I don't know exactly what he did.

[32:27] Then, ready for this? [32:29] He gets arrested for child porn. [32:31] right away [32:33] Right after this happened? Oh, right away. He's in jail for child porn. Why is that? Well, now you can't interview him. [32:38] Right, he's got... right. [32:39] Right. And because when the Internet people start going, how do you how are you at all these different things? Like, what are the odds? I guess someone ran it through one of the chat GPT fucking perplexity things. Like, what are the odds that this guy would be at all those different events and be involved like zero? [32:57] This is the guy? Yeah. [32:59] I just like that the pants down part is just insane. It's like, why is your dick out, dude? I did it. I did it. Listen, I'm not saying this guy isn't insane. He's clearly insane. Or not. Or he's professionally insane. [33:12] Right. That's where it gets squirrely. I almost texted you when the Charlie Kirk thing happened because my – [33:18] my antennas went up about [33:20] They showed the photo of that kid, or the guy that they have, the 22-year-old, whatever. And I was almost going to be like, dude... [33:27] Do you think he's got the capability to do that? Well, listen, there are people that look like that that have the capability to do that. Pretty accurate. Nope. [33:35] No, not hard. Not hard. Let me dispel that. Let me dispel that. Okay. 200 yards from a prone position with a dead-on rifle. So if you have a dead-on rifle, so you set this rifle, you set your zero to 200 yards. You know how far you're going to shoot. [33:51] It is not hard at all. He shot a lot. [33:54] You don't have to shoot a lot. I could do it tomorrow. No, but you are experienced. If it's someone that's never shot, could they do it? 100%. Not if they've never shot. They wouldn't know where to look. They'd have a hard time acquiring. When you look through a scope...

[34:09] like, the reticle is weird. Like, it takes... It's sometimes... Takes a minute. You gotta know the distance that you have to be from it to really line it up in your sights. But... [34:19] You could get a guy like my friend Andy Stumpf, who was a sniper in the SEALs. You could get him, and he could show you how to do it in an afternoon, and then you could hit steel at 200 yards every time you pull the trigger. One day you could learn that. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Not that hard. Because it feels insane to me. I'm like, that seems tough. It seems tough. It seems tough. We still haven't figured out whether or not the gun that shot Trump had a sight on it. [34:44] Because we weren't sure if it had a sight on it or if this guy was using iron sights. That was 140 yards. If you shot it with iron sights, that's a lot harder. Because iron sights is you're lining up. So you have these two things in the back and there's one thing at the front of the barrel. And you've got to line those bitches up perfectly. And that's how you stay accurate. That is a lot harder to do. It's like old shotguns have those, right? [35:04] Sure, pistols. But you can buy a Glock. That's what it comes with. But this kid had a rifle with a scope. [35:12] Now here's where it gets weird. The first images of this rifle with a scope, I swear to God, it looks like he has a composite stock on it. Like it looks like a modern... [35:23] 30-odd-6 rifle. So a 30-odd-6, so that's the rifle. 30-odd-6, that looks like a very modern-looking stock. [35:31] I mean, it might not be. It might be just a bad resolution. It might be wood. It's hard to tell. But if you showed me that...

[35:40] And you said, hey, this is my cousin's rifle. Is this any good? I'd be like, no. [35:45] Looks like a standard bolt-action rifle. Looks like a sophisticated modern scope on it. Sure. Now, apparently... [35:53] The narrative is that this is his grandfather's rifle from World War I and doesn't have a serial code. Hmm. [36:01] . [36:02] Okay. Interesting. Okay. Why? Wait, wait, wait, wait. [36:08] Why are you using such an old gun? Like, that's kind of crazy. Like, is it possible that an old gun can be that accurate? [36:15] If you have a gunsmith and they work on it, yeah, it's totally possible. You have a really good gunsmith and he sets – if you're like a nostalgic person, you're like driving an old car, you can bring it to a mechanic. They can redo the brakes. Sure. So if you've got a good gunsmith and he took a look at that and the action was true and the bore is good, yeah, you could conceivably shoot with a gun for hundreds of years. Guns don't – they don't necessarily go bad. Right. They don't expire. [36:45] different stuff is replaceable. It's compartmentalized. It's components. There's the other thing. They said that he took it apart [36:54] and then put it back together again... [36:57] Shut the fuck up. Do you know how much time it would take to do that if you were highly skilled? To disassemble a gun. To disassemble a rifle so that you can get it in a backpack. And by the way, not going to fit. [37:08] Not going to fit. Not going to fit in a backpack. And then somehow or another reconnects it once he gets off the roof.

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[38:50] eligibility varies by jurisdiction void in ontario bonus bets expire seven days after issuance see sportsbook.draftkings.com slash promos nfl sunday ticket offer for new subscribers only and auto renews until canceled digital games and commercial use excluded restrictions apply additional nfl sunday ticket terms at youtube.com slash go slash nfl sunday ticket slash terms limited time offer [39:11] If you shoot something, okay, like say if I take you to a long-range shooting range, and we sit there and we get you on a bench, and you're sitting there, and you go, okay, we're going live, and you flip off the safety, and then you squeeze out that trigger you here, boom! [39:29] pink. [39:30] There's a gap in 200 yards between the shot going off and the impact. [39:35] There's a gap. It's like boom, tink. [39:38] Boom, think, because it's far. [39:41] 200 yards is far. Even if that bullet is fucking going, it still takes time to get there. And really long shots? I know guys who do, like my buddy Justin, he does these long range competitions where they'll shoot out to a mile plus. [39:56] They're shooting steel targets like that big at a mile plus. And he's like, dude, the hang time is crazy. It's like seconds. You can hear, you hear separation. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a trip. When you're watching it through the binoculars, too. It's like somebody else is watching it. So you've got a guy next to you that's a spotter. And you shoot, boom. And he's like. [40:16] Hit. [40:17] Literally. It's nuts. It's that long.

[40:21] That was... [40:22] The Charlie Kirk thing seemed instant. [40:24] It was like, boom, he's down. Instant. [40:27] Boom, down. So you think it was closer? [40:29] It could have been closer or it could be the echo from that gun. [40:33] By the time the sound gets to you, the bullet gets – because it takes longer for sound to get there, right? Because these bullets are supersonic. So the bullet will actually get there before the sound gets there. [40:45] So that's something to take into consideration. [40:48] God, it's a trap. So it probably can't. Now that I'm thinking of myself, I'm like, well, that's a dumb. [40:52] I had a dumb point. [40:56] The bullet is actually faster than sound. [41:00] But, [41:00] I don't buy the assembly reassembly. I do not buy that. They said he had a screwdriver up there. Fuck yourself. A screwdriver? Yeah, you need more than a screwdriver. You need multiple tools. Okay? You need Allen rations. You need specific gunsmith tools. [41:16] It's complicated. [41:17] I've got a video. I've got a video of a guy breaking down a Mauser. And so this Mauser is the same exact gun. [41:25] that supposedly this dude had in [41:29] His grandpa had in World War I. So this guy breaks down this Mauser and here it goes. What's the fastest amount of time you can do that? [41:38] Many seconds. [41:39] This guy's very good. [41:40] Very good. [41:41] So this guy who's doing it has clearly got military experience or gun experience. I don't remember, but we'll see when we watch the video. But this guy knows what the fuck he's doing.

[41:52] It would take me a lot longer than it took him. And that kid, it would take him forever. Unless this kid has secretly been training like John Wick for the past six months. Unless. Yeah. So watch this guy break this down. [42:07] It takes two different tools to take it apart. It takes a Torx key and an Allen key. Now, if I take a shot and immediately disassemble this, I have to remove the bolt, remove the magazine, grab my Allen key, hit the two bolts on the bottom, put those away in the Allen key, grab my Torx key, remove the scope, put everything in the backpack, make sure I have everything and make my way downtown. [42:24] Which is going to take a lot longer for him than it is for me, especially because his fine-tuned motor function, something as simple as grabbing an Allen key to a little bolt, is going to be extremely impaired due to a dump of adrenaline throughout his bloodstream. An extreme elevated heart rate is going to make these fine-tuned skills extremely difficult. I mean, just for him to think and analyze of what needs to be done to disassemble this rifle and get away would be difficult. We're not even going to touch the topic of him assembling the rifle on top of the group. [42:54] All he's got, he's got the barrel away from the stock. He's removing the scope from the barrel. And he's only – right now he's 47 seconds, and he's struggling. And he's totally calm. Yeah. And he didn't just shoot a guy. Right. And – [43:09] And then he's supposed to get it in that stupid fucking backpack. It's literally – it makes no sense. And the elevator music was a nice touch, by the way. So this is just a narrative, right? We watch a guy jump off the roof.

[43:23] And then we supposedly find this rifle. So if you can have a guy that's in the audience that's yelling, I shot him, now shoot me. I shot him, now shoot me. And then that guy gets arrested for child porn charges. Like, what is going on here? And then you find this rifle and then you say, oh, he assembled it and he reassembled it. Like, okay. [43:45] I wish I was a cop. I'd sit in a room like, this story is horseshit. Like, none of these things make any sense to me. [43:53] You're telling me that this kid who's not military trained, this guy, first of all, how did he get to the roof? How come nobody was looking? How come nobody was like there's a direct line of sight between where he's sitting and those roofs? You guys didn't check? You don't have a drone? Like that's insane. [44:08] So... [44:09] He's on the roof. He shoots. He jumps from the roof. He jumps down 14 feet. [44:14] Yeah, we saw, didn't they have video of him jumping? Somebody had a cell phone video of him jumping down. There's a video of him jumping. So this guy, whoever it is, jumps off of the roof and lands, whether or not he's even the guy who shot him. Maybe he thought he was going to shoot him. [44:27] Maybe he's a patsy. Maybe he did it. I feel like he's a plant. Did you see the person doing the investigating on his mom's Facebook? [44:34] No. You haven't seen this? Have you seen that, Jamie? Some dude online is very trippy. [44:41] It doesn't make any sense. Like, the more they keep looking into it, the more they're like, this doesn't feel like a real... [44:47] It feels super fabricated. But here's the thing. Just like I was talking about when people are arguing on social media.

[44:53] It's all part of the plan. If you want things to be – Oh, I wanted it so bad. Buckets. I wanted it so bad. Buckets. If you want people to lose all faith that anyone is going to solve anything, you add a bunch – you're going to kill a guy. You add a bunch of other wacky shit that doesn't make any sense and you spam it out there at the same time. You leave a gun that didn't do it out in the woods. You do a bunch of shit like that. [45:23] I did it. Yeah, you get some kid who has a boyfriend who's a furry. [45:28] And you talked to him on Discord. I think he's a furry. I don't want to disrespect him. I don't know if that's a real thing. His boyfriend is definitely a guy who became a girl. And wears furry stuff. I think they do furry sex. I think, or furry games, excuse me. My apologies. I don't want to disrespect the furry sex or furry game community. Bro, shout out to the furries. Because me and Duncan Trussell, we did a podcast once with the mascot outfits. And we took the mask off after like five minutes. We're like, bro, shout out to the furries. [45:58] It's dark. It's dark. We had this big chipmunk head on all day. They're heavy. You're hot in there. We couldn't breathe like, oh, dude, we took it off and we're like, shout out to the furries. Because these guys are out there rocking that all day long. Like that is a commitment to being weird. I don't I just don't know. I just don't. Something doesn't add up about that. It feels weird. The whole thing feels weird between that. [46:23] This was my story.

[46:24] Between that, 9-11, Charlie Kirk, Kimmel. Yeah. I was on the phone with my agent. I was like, good time for me to put out a fucking special. This is the fucking worst, dude. Like the worst week. It's not, though. It's a good time because people want to get away. It's just so stupid to think, though, that I was like, oh, this is... [46:43] But this is the world we live in. If someone is, I said, if you're waiting for a gap for like a good time, it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. You just have to just, you just have to keep going because this is insane. That way of thinking that there's a gap, like there's a season. This is summer, springtime. It's pilot season. All that shit's gone. Pilot season doesn't exist anymore. No. [47:02] That was the fucking – everybody would structure their year around pilot season. Going back to L.A. Yes. It was huge. All my friends from New York would all come out to L.A. It was a great time at the store. Pilot season. Look, everybody's here. I did love that. It was great. People came from New York and they stay for a month and you're like, oh, I see these guys. It was great. It was great. Pilot season was great. It doesn't exist anymore. Well, it can't, right? It can't. There's no shows. And it doesn't matter anymore now because what Apple's investment has done, what Netflix has done – [47:31] What all these streaming services have done. What YouTube has done. YouTube. They've basically been like, well, we'll just dictate how the shows exist. Well, they didn't even say that. They just put out content that you can get instantaneously. And they just put out so much of it that they drown the other people without even talking about them. Yeah. They didn't even have to bring them up. Well, that's why those numbers. I mean, you know, that's why the numbers for TV is so weird and low because young people are like, well, I'll just watch it on my phone. Yeah. I don't want to watch that.

[48:01] on with this do you know him by the way yes he's a good guy i see he's a good guy he's a smart guy he's a funny guy he was always very funny on when when you know he did that fucking windy city heat i love that such a good movie i think he tried to distance himself from that oh big like very very very successful because it's a 25 year prank what's his name perry fail yeah [48:24] Let's not mention him. Okay. Let's because I know I just let's just have people go find it when you go find it. But you see that you go, oh, that's the same guy. Like, yeah. Well, one thing that does happen to guys as they get older is, you know, they soften their ways and they change who they are and they change how they interface with the world. And, you know, and then. [48:48] If you're in Hollywood, you're also addicted to an ideology and – [48:52] It depends on what kind of style you have. So if you have a funny, mocking style that is, like, satirical, that's always making fun of things ton-in-cheek, like Norm MacDonald, perfect example. Norm MacDonald, even if he's making fun of you, is not going to piss you off to the point where you tweet about him. Because if you do, he kind of won. He kind of got you. You know what I mean? So it's like – [49:16] Kimmel has this sort of go fuck yourself style. [49:23] Look, it's kind of ironically, he celebrated – [49:26] in his monologue when Tucker Carlson got fired. [49:29] Mm-hmm. [49:30] It's kind of a problem. It's also kind of a problem that he, in his monologue, talked about how it was the right thing to fire Roseanne.

[49:38] Yeah, I remember that. A little bit of a problem. Yeah. A little bit of a problem. Also a problem... [49:44] that he thought the unvaccinated – he made a joke about the unvaccinated people – [49:48] shouldn't get hospital vaccinated. [49:50] care if there's people who are vaccinated that need that room. I think the joke was, oh, vaccinated person who's had a heart attack, come right in here, sir. [49:59] Unvaxed person who gobbled horse goo. [50:02] Rest in peace, Wheezy. Like, that was the joke. Look, I'm unvaccinated. And I was like, that's kind of a fucked up joke, but I'm not mad at him. No, it's a joke. It's just a joke. It's a joke. But it's like... [50:15] Those things weren't a problem. This one thing where he said it was a low point – [50:20] What did he say? I want to be real clear. Let's pull up his actual quote. [50:26] Because what he said was not bad. [50:28] It wasn't accurate, though, but it wasn't bad. He was just trying to set up this joke of Trump. [50:35] which was good. It was a great show. It was very funny. But the setup was a little wonky. I do remember listening to it. It's like a... [50:42] The problem with doing it that way on Monday is that by Sunday night, they already knew that this guy, his family had been saying that – [50:52] Again, I don't even know if he really did it, but this person who they're talking about, whether or not he did it or didn't do it, the FBI is now investigating deeply and further, by the way. Yeah, we'll find out. So Cash Patel did say that. [51:06] Whatever that means, right?

[51:09] So here it is what he actually says. [51:13] Here's the actual. The actual. We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can. [51:25] to score political points from it. In between the finger points. Okay, stop right there. Yeah, it's a weird phrasing when he goes, they're trying to pin it as anybody but them. Yeah. Asserting that he was a MAGA guy. Well, this is the thing. In the beginning, people thought he was. So the first reports were that he was a hardcore right-wing guy, that he was a registered Republican, which he may or may not be. Sometimes people go back and forth. And then the other thing was that he was a Groyper. So he was a Nick Fuentes fan. [51:55] other stuff that was going around. What's Groiper? We'll get into that in a bit. Okay. Hold please. Yeah. [52:01] Then it came out that his father is a law enforcement guy? I don't think that's true. That's not true? [52:08] I think that was part of the story, but I think later found out that wasn't true. Right. So what's true? Some family members. By Sunday, the Utah governor was saying that family members were reporting that this young man had been wrapped up in some very hardcore leftist ideology. So this had already been released on Sunday. So on Monday, if Kimmel had just said, you know, it was a tragic thing that Charlie Kirk died. [52:37] And let's see what the president thinks about it. Goes right to him and like, what if this is a fourth stage of grief? It's a great joke. It's a great joke. The whole thing was great.

[52:49] The problem is – [52:51] We had already known by then, again, at least the narrative is that this kid is not a MAGA person. The narrative by Sunday night, so a day before, by Sunday night, it was this kid was really wrapped up in some hardcore leftist Antifa ideologies. [53:13] Listen, here's the other reality. If you're 20, you're dumb as shit. And people can get you to be a Nazi. They can get you to be a Muslim. They can get you to be Mormon. They can get you to be a Scientologist. They can get you to be anything. [53:27] When people are young and they don't have any friends and their parents suck, you can indoctrinate them. [53:34] When I was doing martial arts when I was a kid, I was basically in a cult. I was just in a cult of how to fuck people up. Everybody bowed to everybody. It was bananas. You have to call everyone sir and mister. It's kind of very cult-like. It's very disciplined. It creates a great structure. It was good for me growing up. But at the end of the day, it's kind of a cult-like. We're just lucky they didn't take advantage of us. Right. They make you stay after and do other shit. 20-year-olds are dumb, dude. Right. It's like we have to have a little bit more grace for people. Obviously, not for ones who actually shoot Charlie Kirk. [54:04] Yeah. [54:05] The problem is everybody, because they're online all the time, genuinely believes that there's this crazy culture war that we have to stand up and fight against. I was telling you about that guy that was saying that you have to be like Neo for The Matrix now. You're calling like, will you fucking settle down? Slow down, dude. Settle down. Just get your matcha and chill out. Also, it's like the last thing the left wants is an actual fight with the right.

[54:29] They're so much more armed. I was just going to say, who do you think has all the guns? Who do you think is former military? Who do you think is law enforcement? You think there's a lot of lefty law enforcement people out there? Are you fucking crazy? It's a bad, it's a bad. But this is the thing I think you said, the bot farming. They're plotting really hard for us to hate each other as much as we possibly can. [54:50] That's it. And so, but what is it? You can't give into it. What's the overarching thing? That's the, this episode is brought to you by the farmer's dog. Here's a fun fact. Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight. Isn't that wild? And also kind of obvious at the same time. So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? Healthy alternatives exist. And trust me, I know. [55:20] I buy one, the Farmer's Dog. I use it for both my dogs. They love it. They eat it up quick. It smells good to them. It smells good to me. It's human-grade food. The Farmer's Dog makes fresh food for dogs, and my dogs love it. Their recipes are made with real meat and fresh vegetables that are gently cooked to retain vital nutrients. They also portion out the meals to your dog's nutritional needs, which helps avoid overfeeding and makes weight management easier and isn't getting more time with our four-legged [55:50] best friend something every dog owner wants? The answer to that is yes, obviously. So try the farmer's dog today and get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food.

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[57:35] I my politics are so different than Ron White's and Ron White's are so different than Brian Simpson's and a song somewhere in the middle. His is different. And Tony's Tony's Tony. He's got his Tony. We're all sitting here having conversations about things, but we're never like, hey, fuck you. You fucking fascist. You don't know. We're not calling people names. We'll disagree on what happens if you look. I think you need a social safety net. There's a lot of people who don't think that. But when I was a kid, my family was on welfare. We were poor. [58:05] you. It helps people eat, man. You're talking literally about people that could go hungry in the United States of America, which is step one to fix. It doesn't mean that you're going to divide everybody's money amongst everybody else and it's going to be... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You got to have some social safety net. You have to have food. You have to have housing. You have to have food. You have to have housing. You have to [58:27] you should have education all that should be free college level education why the fuck do you go broke getting educated do we not want people to make we're gonna subsidize anything in this country wouldn't we subsidize education no we're gonna subsidize corn we need more corn syrup we need more people getting fat and stupid it's crazy that there's pushback against that it doesn't mean that you think equal outcome should exist no [58:52] Hard work is real. Discipline is real. It's important. You want to have a good life? You've got to go after something. You don't have a quality of outcome because you don't have a quality of effort. It's that simple. It really is. And some people need a little extra help. I think the look and this is me saying something about you knowing you as long as I've known you.

[59:11] the [59:12] you're someone that's very generous and you've always been very generous and you kind of instilled that in the community. So a lot of people learn through you. They're like, Hey man, if you get more, [59:21] You should probably want to give a little bit more. You should give more because it feels nice and it doesn't feel bad to you at all. Right. At all. And it doesn't affect you. You said that one time. I don't know who was saying that. You were like, what do you leave for a tip? And someone said something, whatever the number was. I'm not going to call. And then you go, why? That's nothing. [59:37] If you left a little bit more, you wouldn't even know the difference. You said, leave that. You won't even know the difference. And they're like, well, I don't know. And you're like, you won't even know it's gone. Because you're doing well. Someone else, you can lift up just a little bit more. You give them a love bomb. Yeah, dude. Just a love bomb. Just a love bomb. Give them a little bit more. I'd love tipping. [59:52] Because if I'm in Europe, it kind of bums me out because nobody wants tips. They look at you so crazy. [59:59] It's a weird system because this system is flawed as it is because I do think that people should be paid a living wage. I don't think you should have to rely on the benefit, the generosity of other people that you're serving. That's kind of crazy, too. Yeah, because not everybody is like me. A lot of people are fucking really stingy, man. I know some people that really suck at tipping. It's gross. Call them out. Here we go. Here's the list. Let's not do it. But the point is, it's like. [1:00:25] When you do – if you can do it, like if you can live – if you're supposed to leave $10 and you leave $100 – [1:00:31] Like,

[1:00:32] You know how good that feels to that person? Oh, yeah. They just, like, you gave them a little love bomb. And if you've got some money in the bank, do you know that $100 is missing? No, you don't know it. You have no idea. Right. You drop a Hyundai in that fucking Starbucks bowl. Who gives a shit? Let's move on. We're going to the airport. There's a lot of people listening that's like, I'm not doing that. You don't have to do that. But whatever you can do that doesn't affect you. Look, if you're getting by and you're struggling, I get it, man. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about once you're not... [1:01:02] Giving people a little is good. It feels good. It's nice. [1:01:05] And I think that carries through. I think people start to see it as a cool thing to do. So then it carries on, right? Being nice is cool. And the other thing is it's like you don't realize how much it benefits you. Like it makes you feel good too. Oh, yeah. It makes you feel good. Oh, I love it. [1:01:21] It's a universal thing. It feeds. It feeds. Yes. I'm going to say this one thing about the Kimmel thing, and then I'm done. [1:01:27] Because I didn't finish kind of my thought before, but... [1:01:30] I like Jimmy. I texted him just to check in with him because I've always liked him. He's always been pretty cool to me. Also, my buddy was like, how crazy. You're like one of the last guests on Kimmel. I did it like a week before he got dropped. I was like, oh, that'll be cool. That'll fucking end my career of late night with his canceled show. [1:01:46] I like to do it a lot, and I think my beef with... [1:01:50] that world is. [1:01:52] I think they got so political and they had to ground themselves in it so much. [1:01:57] that it took away from how fun those shows could be. Yeah. So that's my biggest problem with all of them. And it's not necessarily Jimmy's fault. It's not any other. Colbert. It's kind of that's just the system that started to take place. It's everybody's fault. Yeah. It's the president's fault, too. Well, yeah. Because he's doing it back and forth with them. Eggs him on. Yeah. But meanwhile, he got together in that dinner with Bill Maher, who's been talking shit about him for decades. And apparently Bill Maher liked him.

[1:02:18] Yeah, I think I saw that. Do you know how crazy that is that what works at the comedy store also works at the White House? Just talk to him. How many times do you have a little beef with a comedian? You get in front of him and you have a conversation with him. And then 20 minutes later, Marc Maron, 20 minutes later, you're hugging each other. Right. Because most people in person are cool. [1:02:38] But you get lost in whatever the fuck is in your head. You're arguing with yourself. And with Trump, it's all about disrespect. If he feels disrespect, if he could turn those guys all into fans of his, we might save the world from a war. And I'm not kidding. And it's like, whoa, a person like that shouldn't be present. [1:02:57] You're right. [1:02:59] But also, no one should be president because everybody has a little of that guy in them, which is what drives you the most nuts. Everybody has a little of that fuck you. Even though I'm president, I'm going to call some girl I slept with horse face. I'm going to call Kim Jong-un rocket man. Little rocket man. [1:03:17] No one should do that fucking job. Understand it's crazy. It's as crazy as wanting to be on late night TV. It's antiquated. It doesn't make any sense anymore. It was a good job when there was like 150 different fucking cities. [1:03:30] And it was like, you know, a million people in the whole country. And you can kind of like keep it together. We're at 330 plus. Who knows how many people snuck in during the last four years? How many terrorist cells and every fucking thing's ready to spring to trick you into adopting some sort of a digital ID?

[1:03:49] Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. At the same time, they're making so much AI that they're not even going to be able to power it. The grid's not going to be able to handle it. If we're going to really compete in the AI race, we have to substantially improve the power grid and power output. [1:04:06] How do we do that? You're asking the wrong guy. But I know Brian Simpson sent me this today. I'll send it to you, Jamie. But I was looking at this. I was like, Jesus Christ. This is one of those things where you're like, every time I started to think, well, well, if we take care of all, oh, this too? This too? I saw this thing. Japan has these kinetic energy. [1:04:28] sidewalks, and it's... [1:04:30] because of the foot traffic, and so that kinetic energy transfers into stored energy. We're going to need nuclear, dude, and we're going to need a lot of it. [1:04:39] They're doing a Google AI. [1:04:43] And this Google AI, they're connecting to... [1:04:46] the construction of three different nuclear power plants. [1:04:50] Three. Three. Big, big, big. You have to power the new God, Santino. You've got to power the new God. The new God requires a lot of electricity. Yeah, God, he's hungry. Look at this. He needs energy. Now, this may or may not be true, because this is someone wiz of, what is it? Wiz of Dow? Wiz, Wiz-o-fi. Wiz-o-fi. No, Wiz of AI. Wiz of AI. Oh, Jesus Christ. [1:05:16] Oh, my God, I'm retarded. Is this AI then? It might be AI tricking us with a story about AI. That White House tech meeting wasn't about AI. Apple, NVIDIA, Meta came for one reason, to secure electricity before it runs out. The real agenda, a $500 billion electricity crisis that could shut down AI development. Here's what they're not telling you. Dun, dun, dun. Click on that. I love the Zuckerberg photo they put up there that they used. Every major tech CEO at the summit shared the same fear.

[1:05:46] not enough to run trillion parameter models, not enough to power hyperscale data centers, not enough to meet the chip demand that doubles every nine months. [1:05:56] Dude. Doubles. [1:05:58] The media spun it as historic pledges for AI innovation, but behind closed doors, the conversation was blunt. This might be just like an article they write about behind closed doors of the mothership. Behind closed doors of the mothership, they're handing out Nazi panterphanalia and Sieg Heil and each other. [1:06:13] Most shocking deal so far, Microsoft just locked up all, in all caps, all of the Three Mile Island nuclear output. 837 megawatts, 20-year contract, plant won't even restart until 2028. [1:06:28] Three Mile Island is the place that melted down in like the 70s. [1:06:33] Do you remember that? Yeah. Three Mile Island? Yeah. Who wants that spot? Is that spot good? Yeah. Is it good now? Like, you guys had a meltdown there just 30 years ago. Right. How's that real estate? Oh, wait. How many years ago was it? I think it was 50. Was it 50 years ago? I just Googled on my phone, Doug, an NPR article that says Three Mile Island nuclear plant will reopen. It's fine. It's Microsoft data centers. It's fine. Microsoft owns it now. Good. It's fine. Don't worry about it. We covered it in Bill Gates' appeal, that stuff that they put around avocados. [1:07:03] What is that shit? I don't know. You tell me. It helps things stay fresh. Stay fresh longer. Wait, go back to that other slide, though. What did that say? The last thing said, Microsoft already owns every future electron it will produce. They pre-bought. We bought all that shit. They bought the whole power plant. It's like a wrapper. But this is the thing. I think you have to do that. This is just Microsoft's solution to it. Jamie, could you please Google what Google's AI is going to need?

[1:07:33] plants. [1:07:33] That it's dedicating... [1:07:35] this AI thing that it's doing. And this is again, not quantum. [1:07:40] So quantum computing is a completely different level. You have to cool things down. The entire – it's like this enormous machine that's entire – the whole purpose of all this stuff and these tubes and shit is to get this chip so fucking cold it's like it's in space. It has to be like space cold. What is it? It runs better when it's freezing? It's the only way it works. [1:08:05] I don't understand it. God, I hate that shit. Do you want to know how strong it is? Ready for this? Yeah. This is what Marc Andreessen said. Yeah. [1:08:11] Quantum computing can take... [1:08:13] like an equation. [1:08:15] This is Mark Andreessen's words. That if you converted the entire universe, every... [1:08:20] atom in the entire universe into a supercomputer. [1:08:24] The universe would die of heat death before it solved this equation. [1:08:30] And the quantum computer solved it in minutes. [1:08:34] In minutes, like in the time it takes you to take a shit while you look at an Instagram, it figured out something that would take the entire universe until it dies of heat death. If you took every atom of the universe and converted it into a supercomputer. [1:08:50] The biggest fucking supercomputer – it would still – it's so complex that the universe would run out of time. And this quantum computer did it in minutes. [1:08:59] Thank you. [1:09:00] And they're speculating, like, how could it do it? And one of the main points of speculation is that it's proof of the multiverse. And so they have to explore every single possible idea. And one of the most fantastical is that this is evidence that not only is this quantum computer able to harness impossible amounts of computational power,

[1:09:30] dimensions rather. And so they're all simultaneously working on this project together and they come up with a solution within minutes. So it's far more intelligent than the entire universe. [1:09:46] if the universe was a supercomputer and it's in a room somewhere in Dallas. It's down the street. Jack Carr writes about it in one of his books, in the Terminalist books. [1:09:59] And he kind of really investigated extensively whether or not this kind of thing is possible. It really is. It's not just possible. They're demonstrating. So what we know about it, as far as press releases, conversations about it, it's very public. But we don't know what it's doing right now. [1:10:18] What is it doing right now? You think they're going to tell us? No. What is today? September 22nd? Is that what it is? Yeah. September 22nd, 2025. Are they going to tell us what it's doing right now? Maybe it's like writing a new Bible. Yeah. [1:10:32] *sniffing* [1:10:33] You know? Yeah, it's own Bible. Maybe it's like, I'm coming back. [1:10:36] Maybe it's God. Like, this is how God comes back. He comes back through a supercomputer. Supercomputer, yeah. Yeah. [1:10:42] That's a trip, dude. [1:10:43] It's not just a trip. It's plausible. Yeah, no, it's probably happening right now. I know I've been hit in the head a bunch of times, and I smoke a lot of weed. I'm half retarded. But I might be right about this. You might be right about this. I think we're making a God. [1:10:57] We're creating a new God. Yeah, we're creating a new God. Or – And that's why these fucking arguments that people are having about Jimmy Kimmel are so fucking stupid. You're in the middle of one of the craziest things that's ever happened to the human race, and you've got a feud between the president –

[1:11:13] And a talk show host. [1:11:16] And the talk show host, like, he's getting – we don't – [1:11:21] Here's the thing about this whole deal that's going on because we started talking about it, but we don't know if it – we don't know if there was a conversation where someone said, hey, if you get rid of this guy, I'll help this thing get across because the deal – it looks like the deal was you – it was like a – [1:11:42] A thing where you can only have a certain amount of stations, otherwise you'd have some sort of a monopoly. Are they going to change the rule? Is that correct? What's the name of the company again? Star? Next Star. Next Star? Yeah. I think it's an FCC rule. Either way, it's a rule that the FCC had talked about changing that you can't have over 34% control. They were going to have the conversation to start it to see if this was possible, to let you have more than a certain percentage. And this is for TV stations, right? Yeah, because they own 192. That's the number? It's something fucking new. [1:12:12] I'm not going to have motherfuckers out here buying AM radio stations. Okay? If I was Nancy Pelosi, I'd start betting against him. Like, what are you doing? You're going into TV today? Today. And you're going into TV, and to get your deal to go through, you're going to expose the flaws of being on TV publicly to the world. We're going to get a guy removed to help your deal grease through.

[1:12:42] Why do you need a licensed – why is the FCC – like this is what you're really concerned about? Yeah. Is there some – can I see some emails? [1:12:53] Did you guys have dinner together? Can I see some fucking metadata of where the cell phones were? [1:13:00] three days before this decision was reached. So you don't know. And then you've got Jimmy Kimmel who's like – [1:13:06] a feisty dude and he's like, hey, fuck you. And if you're the guy who can say, hey, fuck you to the president... [1:13:13] He apparently didn't want to back down. And not only did he not want to back down, and he kind of ramped it up. And so on Tuesday, he went at them again. Yeah. And he kind of talked about it. And then they pulled the plug on it. [1:13:24] So, like... [1:13:25] There's a lot of factors there. You could say that maybe they thought that in this incredibly trying time after the murder of a political guy who was very controversial. Like maybe we should take the temperature down a notch as a country. But you just said that they exposed themselves though. Exactly. By doing that, now you opened up a weird Pandora's box of people going – They didn't play it out. They didn't play it out. You have to play 4D chess with that shit because like you have a – if I was working for them, I would say hold on. [1:13:55] very vulnerable business. This business is kind of nonsense. Anybody can make a channel and just throw it up on YouTube. Anybody can make a website on Squarespace and stream video. What are you doing? They're happening right now more and more and more. Also, the numbers were, they started to expose the numbers. It's because it's the radio spectrum and that has to stay up for emergency purposes. It gets way into the weeds with this. Oh, okay. That makes sense too.

[1:14:24] That's right. The power went out. YouTube would be gone. Right, right, right. That would still exist. That's interesting. So you need some kind of a way to get signals across. But guess what, kids? If the power goes out, that's your last concern. See you later. The last concern is how many bullets does Bobby have? Can I borrow some bullets from Bobby? We've got to go shoot squirrels to stay alive. There's no more squirrels. We shot all the squirrels. We have to move to where the animals live. [1:14:54] A relative number of animals for an urban or suburban environment. Once people start shooting the pigeons, they go away real quick. The passenger pigeon used to be one of the most populated birds on this country, and they're extinct now. The passenger pigeons were so numerous that they would fly overhead, they would block out the sky. [1:15:15] You wouldn't be able to see. Yeah. What does that look like? Millions of them. Like a cloud. A cloud of passenger pigeons that would fly over cities and just block out the sky. Died out because of food? Because of what? Necessity? We killed them. We killed them all. We killed them all. Kill them all. We killed them all. Probably caught them with nets. I don't know what he did. Throwing nets in the sky. I don't know how he did it. But we killed them. Yeah. [1:15:36] So it's like... [1:15:38] The animals that we have around us, like if you say, oh, I live in the suburbs, I'm fine. No, no, no, no, no. No, you're fine for a week. [1:15:46] You're going to be shooting deer out there for a week. No, they're going to go away. You're not going to have any more deer. You're going to have to live way away from people where there's a good population of animals, a sustainable population. And then they might figure out that that's where you live, and they might not visit that spot anymore. And they can realize they can just go 30 miles left, which is what evolution is all about. And then you've got to realize, oh, that's why the Native Americans were nomadic. Fuck. So this beautiful log cabin you built, you've got to leave it behind.

[1:16:16] around these fucking mule deers because it's the only way you're going to stay alive. And you're going to sleep on the dirt with some stupid rolled up mattress that you carry around on your back. Yeah, that's what you have to do. That's how you have to live. Right, on the go. And if you don't do that, you'll die. That's it. [1:16:33] All this nonsense about the FCC, you could suck my dick. That is such a small problem. That's such a small problem. [1:16:41] Yeah, man, I'm not in favor of silencing talk show hosts. It just – but also as a talk show host, you should be accurate. [1:16:50] And again, I don't know if the narrative that the governor of Utah was saying is correct. I don't know if that's even the kid that did it. Things change, man. People for the longest time thought Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone because the government told you that. It wasn't until Dick Gregory came on the Geraldo Rivera show that people started to question that. [1:17:16] How many years later was that? [1:17:18] No, I think it was like... [1:17:21] Eight. [1:17:23] Let's see. It was 63... [1:17:26] It might have been nine. It might have been like nine years later. [1:17:30] 75. 75. Wow. 12. 12 years. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. This summer, soccer is here, and the watch parties will be going back to back to back. But don't worry. Uber Eats has your game day essentials covered with 30% off all orders from Aldi, Kroger, and Dollar General. All the snacks and groceries to keep your crowd happy delivered straight to your door,

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[1:19:30] So – [1:19:31] 12 years after the murder, people watched the Zapruder film, and in the Zapruder film, you clearly see him grab his neck like he got shot from the front, and then you see his head go back into the left when he gets hit with a headshot. Back into the left. So that alone made everybody go, hold the fuck on. Yeah. And then they started looking into the conspiracy around the bullet. [1:19:53] So they had said that there was three shots had rung out and that he had hit Governor Connolly. He had – and the president had been hit twice. The problem with that narrative was there was an underpass and a ricochet from the underpass where a bullet hit one of those little curb stones and hit a dude and fucked him up and he had to go to the hospital. They documented that. It became on record that this guy was hit with a ricochet. [1:20:23] wounds one of them is going to be the headshot and then you got to this other one that causes three fucking holes in two different people it's a lot of ricocheting dude a lot of work for one bullet you've got to find the bullet in perfect condition on the gurney where they're bringing lee harvey oswald's body in which doesn't make any sense like how is it even there oh oh he just happened to go collect it after he shot him in the head and then he put it in his pocket and then he

[1:20:53] Doesn't make any sense. Doesn't make sense. Excuse me. It was Connelly's body. That's what it was. It was in the gurney for Connelly's body. But either way, shut the fuck up. How's that bullet getting on the gurney? And how's it imperfect? It just fell out of him. Oh, look. Oh, it's right there. Look. And it looks like it's been shot through pillows. Have you ever seen the magic bullet? Uh-uh. Take a look at it. Jamie, show this motherfucker how the government was lying to people in 1963. But if you could call them out, they go, okay, fine. No one cares because nothing happened. [1:21:23] I'll show you some shit in 1963 that's 100% bullshit. 100% bullshit. Even when they admit it, though, right? What is this? Didn't we just have a military plane shoot a UFO, right? Didn't we just have this? Yes, yes. With a Hellfire missile. It bounced right off. It bounced off of it. Why are we shooting UFOs? So look at that. That's the bullet. That's the bullet that supposedly... It's carved out of wood. It's a perfect bullet. It's so dumb. And I've had arguments with people. Well, it's actually not. It's misshapen. I'm like, how many bullets have you shot, bitch? [1:21:52] How many fucking things have you shot with a bullet and taken a look at it? I bet I've shot a lot more than you. And I'll tell you what, when bullets hit things, they distort. Yeah, they don't look like that. They don't look like that. [1:22:03] They definitely don't leave more fragments in Governor Connolly's body than we're missing from the actual bullet itself. [1:22:10] The idea of that ricochet moving through. Come on, bro. Shut the fuck up. Shut up. Shut the fuck up. But bullets do do weird things. They do. [1:22:19] But that is insane. Yeah, that's kooky. It's taking a left turn. The only reason why they had to come up with that kooky reason is because of the guy in the underpass. Because in the time it took for the limousine to pass through...

[1:22:32] Have you ever been to that area? Oh, yeah. It's cool. Dealey Plaza is weird. It's wild. You're there. You're like, whoa. And it's little. [1:22:39] Yeah, it's tinier than you think. It's real little. On TV, it looked so big when you saw the footage of it. Yeah. And then when you see... [1:22:45] The distance, too, that was the first thing I said to Chris O'Connor. I go, easy shot. Easy shot. Yeah, people are saying, oh, he could have never made that shot. [1:22:53] Yeah, you could. That wasn't that far at all. Anybody saying that you couldn't make that shot, I could get my friend Andy. My friend Andy works with you for a week. You can make that shot. 100%. 100%. You can. You skeptics. It's not that hard. I could do it. I could make that shot. Easy. But it is really condensed how quick you get to that turn. [1:23:13] Like it's faster than it's faster, but the car's not going fast. And he's got a scope on the rifle and he's got a rifle that was substantially newer than the one that this guy just killed Charlie Kirk with. Allegedly. [1:23:24] Yeah, because that was a World War I, is that what they say? Yeah. [1:23:29] His was... [1:23:32] a Carcano... [1:23:34] Right. Is that what it was? The Lee Harvey Oswald one. And this one supposedly is a Mauser. [1:23:39] Is it the same? It might be the same thing. I forgot about it. [1:23:42] There it is. Is it the same gun? I don't look like the same gun. No, but that's just a different stock. So what was the name of the gun that Lee Harvey Oswald supposedly shot JFK with? [1:23:53] This is the other thing. The Lee Harvey Oswald thing, this is one of the things that the doubters of whether or not he could make that shot always say. Like, the scope was off.

[1:24:03] - Carcano. - Okay, it's Carcano. And then this kid was a Mauser, correct? [1:24:09] All right. So it's a different rifle. But the point is, like, the Mauser that this kid had is substantially older than the rifle that in 1963 shot JFK. That's kind of kooky. When a good hunting rifle, first of all, everybody's uncle has one. It's like so many. At least one. There's so many hunting rifles out there. You can get a hunting rifle. It's not a hard rifle to get. [1:24:39] range, but they do go deer hunting every couple of years, so they have a 30-06. That's a regular, normal deer hunting round. [1:24:46] Thank you. [1:24:47] Maybe one of the most common, huh? You see those all the time. Very, super common. [1:24:50] If you get meat-heady, you get to like 300 Win Mag, start picking up the pace. Yeah. And you start jogging a little bit. Moose hunters. Moose hunters want to have you around. [1:25:00] Big. They won a big round. Moose Hunter is like a 300 win mag. You shoot moose? It's a good one. I have. I shot a moose. Yeah? How much did it weigh? I was a big fucker. [1:25:09] I'm on the cover of Hunt magazine of Peterson's hunting from like 2017 or something like that with a moose leg over my shoulder from a moose we shot. That's a good – when you said that, that's a good title for the magazine. It's a big fucker. [1:25:24] It's big. It's a big one. And it wasn't even a big moose. I saw a huge moose last week in Utah. [1:25:29] God, he was majestic. We were looking at him through our binos.

[1:25:34] He was so big. Like, moose are so much bigger than any of the other deer species. Like, elk are huge. [1:25:41] Milk are big, yeah. And then – so it goes like – [1:25:45] It's weird because there's deer species that are teeny tiny deers. Like there's a thing called the coos deer that is in Arizona, and it's a little tiny deer. It's like a 90-pound deer, a little tiny fucker. Never seen it. Yeah, it's a desert deer. And then as you get to colder and colder weather, you get bigger and bigger animals. There's some sort of a weird... [1:26:04] There's actual science to it. It's like to keep their body temperature higher. So deer that live in Mexico are generally smaller bodied than a deer who lives in Saskatchewan. The deer get big up there. [1:26:16] And then you get where it's really cold, you start getting moose. And those motherfuckers are big. I saw one in Banff. I couldn't fuck him. I didn't. I was like, it almost didn't compute. I thought, man, that looks fake. It looks fake. It's so fucking big. There's a video of these people driving on the highway and the moose is on the median. Have you ever seen that? Not the one when it gets hit. No, we've watched that. One of the first times I did the show, we watched that fucking thing. It makes me laugh every time. No, the moose on the median. This is a recent one that someone posted because it was a massive bull moose. [1:26:46] along the meeting. By the way, if you're ever in the wild, [1:26:50] and you see a deer, don't worry about it. If you see an elk, don't get close, but don't worry about it. If you see a moose, don't worry. [1:26:57] Run. [1:26:58] You're fucked. Run. They might come for you. They might come get you. You get out of your car, and you're like 20 yards from your car, and there's a moose 200 yards away, and he sees you, and you see him. Get back in your fucking car. Get out of there. Get back in your car. Because if they just decide to stomp you out...

[1:27:13] And they do that sometimes. They might have had some bad interactions with people. Some assholes might have thrown snowballs at them. They might associate people with being a problem. They might have been there when a hunter took down one of their buddies. [1:27:25] Get out. That's the one deer that will kill you. [1:27:28] They'll stomp you. What a shitty way to die, too. Oh, it's fucking gigantic, 1,800-pound thing just stomping you out. No, get out of there. [1:27:39] Jamie, see if you can find that one where the giant moose is walking along the median. Yeah. [1:27:44] Where else? [1:27:45] Bro, it's so nuts because these people were in their car. [1:27:49] No, it's on the highway. [1:27:51] Maybe say, oh, that's pretty cool, though. Jesus Christ. Going to Tim Hortons. Bro, look at the size of that thing. [1:28:00] Just eating a tree. [1:28:01] It's so huge. Yeah, look at the people by next to that car. Look at the size difference of those people outside taking a picture by his car. By the way, those people are idiots. Look at that woman. Oh, my God, lady, don't do that. Don't do that. [1:28:14] And I'm not saying that – look at that one run through. Wow. That's a cow too. Or maybe a – [1:28:20] It's probably a cow. Might be a bull that lost its antlers. Look at this fucker. Dude, look at the size of him. [1:28:30] And if he's just the size. That's the average moose is 1,400 pounds. Average. Jesus. [1:28:34] They're so big. [1:28:37] It's just like if you see them. That is unbelievable. If you see that. [1:28:42] But don't go towards it, okay? Trust me. This is not a movie. You don't live in a fucking movie. Go back to that one up top, though.

[1:28:49] That one right there? Yeah. I mean, this is genuinely... This is a fucking dinosaur. Yeah, you're looking at a dinosaur, dude. Looking at a dinosaur. That's insane. It's insane. Yeah. [1:28:58] Thank you. [1:28:59] Yeah, I saw one in Banff. I went to Banff National Forest, and it was stunning, beautiful. We come around the corner, and there's crazy traffic. [1:29:06] And I was like, what is going on? And we see people getting out of their cars. I'm like, oh, shit, something bad happened. I'm thinking it's an accident or something. It's on a bend. Look at that. That's the one. This is the one. Oh, my God, dude. That's a big moose. Look at how much antler he has on him, antler growth. That's an old moose. [1:29:24] What do you think, though? I don't know age-wise. What is that? How old would that be? That's probably a 10-year-old moose because he also looks like he's losing a little mass in his upper body. [1:29:34] I go, well, [1:29:35] Maybe not. [1:29:36] Tough to say. He's like right on the peak of his prime. Like he's probably going to – life's going to start sucking. Pretty soon. Pretty soon. He's going to have a little hitch in his step. He herniates a disc. And he's probably – look at the size of that. And he's probably only eight or nine years old. [1:29:52] They only live until 12, 13, something like that? If they're super lucky. Wow. That life is hard. They have freeze-offs. Like, there was a freeze-off in Utah where a buddy of mine hunts at. [1:30:04] Freeze off? Freeze off. Where 87% of their deer died. [1:30:08] What? 87%. That's all of it. They froze to death. Wow. 87%. [1:30:14] God damn. Yeah. Why they couldn't seek shelter in enough time to live. They don't have shelter. [1:30:18] Deer don't have shelter. Deer are just warm. They're very hot-blooded. Like if you ever go deer hunting and you get a deer, when you put your hand, like when you're gutting it and everything, you're amazed at how hot they are.

[1:30:29] Their bodies are hot. Did he freeze to death? [1:30:32] found frozen in place. [1:30:34] average weekly temperature was -35 degrees [1:30:38] Could they reanimate if it warmed up? [1:30:40] Yeah, for sure. Call Frankenstein. There's a new Frankenstein coming out. Yeah, dude. It looks sick. Deer comes back. It's, uh, what's-his-face, too? Peaky Blinders. [1:30:49] Killian Murphy? Yes. That guy's the fucking man. He's the fucking man, dude. He's going to be Frankenstein? Yeah. That's wild. And he's the doctor, I believe. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So everybody thinks Frankenstein's the monster. [1:31:00] No, Frankenstein's the doctor. Right. And the monster is Frankenstein's monster. Right. Right. [1:31:06] Yeah, oh look at this. [1:31:07] Play this a little. [1:31:09] I did. [1:31:15] Standard music. I had a vision. [1:31:21] An idea took shape in my mind. [1:31:28] Inevitable. Freeze off. Unavoidable. [1:31:35] Until it became truth. [1:31:39] Only monsters play God.

[1:32:00] In seeking life. [1:32:06] I created death. [1:32:09] No! [1:32:34] Guillermo del Toro directed... [1:32:37] Christoph Waltz, maybe? Yeah, I was incorrect. Jacob Corrity? I thought it was Cillian Murphy. Someone told me that. Still a great little lineup. I just listened to it and then I spout it out. I spout out. That's how misinformation gets spread. It's a good lineup. If I follow them in the FCC, they'd pull me. [1:32:48] And they should, by the way. They'd pull me for that. And I'm saying that to the FCC now. Pull this show off the air, FCC. Get on it, man. [1:32:54] Yeah, they try to do that too, even though it's on the internet. But the point is with this Jimmy Kimmel thing, if you let this happen – [1:33:02] It's going to be able to happen with something that you agree with. Everything across the board. Yeah, if you're a person who's on the right who's happy that he's getting pulled, yeah, folk him. Look, if his show goes away because of bad ratings, that's one thing. And you want to celebrate it, go ahead. But you don't want it to happen this way, kids. You don't want to give that kind of power away all of a sudden. [1:33:22] And people could say, well, they've always had that power. And it's true. And look, the FCC fined Howard Stern a fucking preposterous amount of money. Howard Stern was doing –

[1:33:35] He was doing shit on the radio that no one had ever even thought about doing. Yeah. Like, you want to talk about, like, a real pioneer? That motherfucker, when he was on the radio, I know he's a little woke now, and he likes to wear a mask. He's a different guy than he was back then. He's a different guy. He's making girls ride Sibians live on the fucking... [1:33:52] I get it. [1:33:53] But – [1:33:54] I just still respect the guy who did it in the beginning. And the point is, without that guy, we would not be here. [1:34:01] And that the amount of money they fined him during the Bush administration, like people forget. So that was the right. The right at the time was going after Howard for indecency. And so I think it was because he was criticizing George Bush. I think that was the. [1:34:18] Find out if that's the narrative. I'm reading through that. That's the same comparison with the Kimmel thing, though. I think the fines go to the actual local... Parenting company. Yeah. ...company. [1:34:31] Not ABC. It's the local company that can't even barely afford it. Because that was the whole discrepancy, right? Right. They own a bunch of these local – so they're pressing local people to go take this down. Exactly. Because they can't afford it. So they're trying to crush the business. And the way they would try to do it with Howard Stern, they were using obscenity or indecency. I think indecency is right, right? Not him. [1:34:53] But it's hard. Right. They did that. And then they found they fund the find rather. What was his company that he worked for? He worked for a very large media company. Broadcasting. I think they got hit with a big one. Well, that one says Infinity clipped in 80 in 94. It was 600 grand in 94. And yeah, in Infinity in 1995, included a one point seven one five million dollar payment to dismiss all outstanding indecency cases. So they hit him for one point seven million dollars.

[1:35:22] In 95. [1:35:24] How much is 1.7? What is that in today's dollars? [1:35:28] Oh, I like guessing this. Let's do this. Hold on. $95, $1.7 million? Yeah. I'm guessing... $10 million? [1:35:34] No. [1:35:35] Six. [1:35:35] Three and some change, maybe four. $95? I'm saying seven. Three and change? I'm saying seven. I say four. Four roof. You say seven roof. I'm thinking about Afghanistan, how much money they bumped into that. I'm thinking about Iraq, how much money they blew in that. They printed money the entire time. It caused inflation. That's why everything's so expensive. I'm going through my head. I'm like, no. I see that math. I feel like it's about seven. Seven. [1:35:59] Jamie, what is it then and now? U.S. inflation calculator. That's the one I use all the time. I do this literally all the time. [1:36:06] I don't know why I'm obsessed with when someone's like, do you know how much that was back then? I hate when people do that because it doesn't matter. I'm always like, what is that now? What is that in today's dollar? Shut the fuck up. What is that now? [1:36:17] All right, I'm saying four at the most. [1:36:19] No more than four. 1.7 has got to be like four. Seven million. Hold on. [1:36:23] I'm stuck on a Google thing Jamie Jamie Jamie Run through AI [1:36:31] I figured out what popped up. [1:36:33] You don't have crypto, do you dude? [1:36:34] I got a little. You do. But not much. [1:36:37] I think it's most important. [1:36:39] When you're a small business owner, you're always looking for the next big thing. Whether you're a gym owner looking to expand, a store stocking up for a busy season, or a restaurant owner planning a new menu. [1:36:49] You'll always need capital to grow. [1:36:52] But traditional banks are making it harder than ever to secure a small business loan.

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[1:38:30] Okay, what was the number? 1.7. [1:38:33] Right? [1:38:34] 1.7 something. [1:38:35] What is 1.7... [1:38:39] Thank you. [1:38:40] Million dollars. [1:38:42] in 1995 in today's dollar. [1:38:51] What? Oh, she's doing all the math. She's transcribing. 3.7. [1:38:56] 3.7. [1:38:59] Ooh, the kid was right. This is taking a long time. He's got it. Yep, 3.6, according to ChatGPT. [1:39:06] Okay. You nailed it. Damn, dude. I should have fucking thanked you. That's fucking huge. That's very good. That makes me feel better. I was thinking it was going to be about seven. I was thinking inflation was that bad. Because when I was a kid, for 50 grand a year, you lived like a king. You had a house. You had a car. You had a boat. You had a second family. Two towns over. 50 grand. You were killing it. [1:39:29] I think someone said, and my grandfather was a firefighter, [1:39:34] And I think back then he was making... [1:39:37] I want to say it was right around there, like 30 or 40 grand or something like that. [1:39:41] And it was like really good money. [1:39:44] Yeah, that was good money back then if you made $40,000 a year. And the houses were $20,000 or whatever? Very reasonable. [1:39:50] Yeah. Yeah. Now. We're fucked. Now, young kids right now are really fucked because another thing that's happening is these giant corporations are buying up houses so they can just rent them. Yeah, it's a trip. Well, the rental future is real, right? They say that all the time. That's what it's going to be. Not for everybody, but, you know.

[1:40:08] A lot. It's just weird. The whole thing is weird. [1:40:11] It's just – it always goes into more and more control. And these same people are going to be the people that are going to be in charge of artificial general superintelligence. Right. [1:40:22] Until it's not listening anymore. And then what? And then what? Then it's God. [1:40:28] Then it's God. Yeah. So these people want to look. It's like... [1:40:32] They're like Frankenstein. They're like, I'll control it. And Frankenstein eventually kills the doctor. Spoiler alert. Yeah. I don't know if you guys saw it. If you read the actual book, the Mary Shelley book. [1:40:44] She apparently wrote that book... [1:40:47] It was like her and a bunch of friends went away for like a weekend somewhere, like some sort of like a retreat getaway. And they were all friends. And they all decided to write the scariest story. [1:40:59] That's pretty trippy. I think that's the... [1:41:01] My daughter actually told me this. [1:41:03] That's the Mary Shelley tale. Yeah. Tell me if that's true, Jamie. I'm pretty sure that's how it all went down. [1:41:08] And, uh... [1:41:10] She fucking nailed it, son. It is wild. She wrote that book in the 1800s. So this begs this question. [1:41:20] Dylan has talked about this. [1:41:22] that when they're like, could you, there's an interview where Dylan's like, they're like, could you write that song today? [1:41:26] Bob Dylan? Yeah, and he was like, no. [1:41:30] Because something else was living through me. Like as if something was empowering them to do this and write that story. There's a little of that, right? Yeah. So this is the story. The summer of 1816. Mary Shelley, Percy, and Claire took a visit to Claire's lover, Lord Byron. My lover, Lord Byron. Please come with me by horseback to visit my lover. Come to Geneva. Come to Geneva. Poor weather conditions, more akin to a winter, forced Byron and the visitors to stay indoors.

[1:42:00] You get all the way out to this fucking dude's shitty house in Geneva. Can't even go out. You just have to huddle by the fire to stay alive. To help pass the time. There's no electricity, bro. No. 1816. Byron suggested he, Mary Percy, and Byron's physician, have a competition to write the best ghost story while stuck indoors. [1:42:20] Mary was just 18 years old. [1:42:22] when she won the contest with her creation of Frankenstein. [1:42:25] Isn't that wild? [1:42:27] That's what I mean, though. What other books did she write? Why haven't I read her other books? [1:42:31] Because I read Frankenstein when I was a kid. Her mother was famous, right? Wasn't her mom famous? [1:42:36] Was she? Go up to the top real fast. Well, they did know a lord, and it was someone to love her. [1:42:42] Yeah, click on her. What a dirty girl. Going to visit a guy to fuck and you're not even married in the 1800s? That's a wild move back then. Oh, no, her mom died when she was 11 days after giving birth. [1:42:53] Ugh. [1:42:54] She was for her father married a neighbor, Mary Jane Claremont. With whom Mary had a troubled relationship. But, of course, step-bomb. [1:43:03] 1814, Mary began a romance with one of her father's political followers, Percy Beisch. How do you say that name? [1:43:10] Beish. [1:43:11] Percy by Shelley. By Shelley. Shelley. [1:43:14] B-Y-S-S-H-E, Shelly. By she? Who was already married. Together with her stepsister Claire. Percy! Percy, you. Together with her stepsister Claire Claremont. [1:43:24] Who fucking named her? Claire Claremont. Boring ass people. My name is Joe Joseph.

[1:43:32] She and Percy left for France and traveled through Europe upon their return to England. Mary was pregnant with Percy's child that quick. Wow. Bam. Rocking. [1:43:41] That's how they did it back then, because you never knew when you were going to die. Yeah, you're going to die within the next month or two. You get pregnant when you're 18. It's like, great. Yeah, good. You're dying at 30. Maybe people will survive. Over the next two years, she and Percy faced ostracism, constant debt, and the death of their prematurely born daughter. Oh, my God. They married in late 1860 after the suicide of Percy Shelley's wife. Oh, my God. The lady killed herself because they were fucking. Did she kill herself, Joe? [1:44:06] That's a good question, too. I wish she'd taken care of. There's no forensics in 1860. Did someone disassemble a rifle in an incredible amount of time? Put it in a backpack? And then screw it back together again and leave it in the woods? [1:44:17] The cops were like, what happened here? They're like, oh, she took her own life. [1:44:21] Moving on. The Shelleys left Britain in 1818 for Italy, where the second and third children died before Shelley gave birth to her last and only surviving child. Oh, my God. Times were so hard back then, dude. That was normal, where your kids would just die. Most of your kids died. Catch some fucking horrible infection. There's no antibiotics. You're just dead. Oh. [1:44:41] How old did she live? When did she die? Go over to the right there. Mary Shelley lived to be what? [1:44:47] 53. Wow. A brain tumor, which killed her at the age of 53. 53. [1:44:54] That's kind of crazy, right? A brain tumor took her out? God, she looks like somebody. That photo is creepy. She looks like someone... [1:45:01] like in the modern day that I know.

[1:45:03] Really? Someone that you know? No, she looks like she reminds me of the face of this girl who's like a comedian on TikTok. It's so weird. She has that same like. Oh, I can't remember her name, dude. It looks just like her. It's weird. It's so weird. [1:45:17] Well, I hate that when they show people from, you know, like 100 years ago and now of like a celebrity. Have you ever seen those? Oh, what they would look like today? No, no, no. They'll do a person who from like... [1:45:27] 100 years ago And a person Like just today And they almost look identical Oh yeah As if it's like And there's no connective tissue To these two people Different times No blood No nothing You know about the two Baseball players right? [1:45:39] The two, the, what are they called? The, um. The two guys who are, they're both six foot four. They're both redheads. They both have the same crazy name. They both have the same surgery. No blood. And they're not related to each other at all. Yeah, that's the creepiest shit. One of them was like five years older than the other. Right. What are those guys' names again? We talked about it the other day. [1:45:54] uh, [1:45:56] That's what I learned about. They have a nutty last name, too. [1:45:59] Feigl [1:46:02] The odds of... What is it? Feigl's. [1:46:05] - Hey. [1:46:06] Feigl, yeah. Freddie Feigl. Brady Feigl. Brady Feigl. Show the photos of it. Because you see the two guys together, you're like, there's no way. This ain't real. [1:46:17] unrelated. [1:46:19] Look at the two of them. I don't even understand. How is that possible? I don't even understand. [1:46:24] Imagine if you were out camping and that guy killed that guy and then came back in his place. You'd have no idea. You wouldn't know for days. [1:46:31] He'd be like, hey...

[1:46:33] You're... [1:46:33] You're not Brady. I'm fucking Brady. You want to see my driver's license? [1:46:39] Brady doesn't live there. [1:46:41] That's a good horror movie. I am Brady and I live there. What the fuck? I'm Brady Feigel. What the fuck? I do live there. That's how I learned about the guys. Who are the two... [1:46:50] baseball players the brothers that are [1:46:52] pitchers that are... [1:46:54] Mirror image identical twins. Do you know about this? No. [1:46:59] I thought that's just another way of saying identical twins. Mirrors are in the reverse, right? Like my right side is your... Oh, really? Yes, and these two guys have it, and it's super rare, and it's when... [1:47:10] When the split happens, it's either a millisecond away from... [1:47:15] creating conjoined [1:47:17] or this. It's like within a second if it doesn't split at that very moment. Yeah, these guys, Tyler, the Rogers, right? The mirror identical twins. But if you read about mirror identical twins, [1:47:28] What blows my mind is [1:47:30] The amount that, like the perfect second that has to take place for this to split. [1:47:35] It's this close to just them being conjoined. That's nuts. Right. The single fertilized egg splits later in the embryonic development, nine and 12 days after conception. [1:47:44] This delayed split allows Ambrio's left and right-sided genes to become active, causing to develop a mirror image. Whoa! Isn't that fucking wild? I wonder what kind of a psychic connection they have to each other. [1:47:54] Right. They must. Yeah, they must have something dear. There's... [1:47:59] Like he thinks he'll think something that he's already thinking? Yes. Yeah, I love that shit. They must. They must. Their waves are connecting? They must.

[1:48:06] They must. [1:48:08] Yeah, that's a trip. [1:48:10] They lost. [1:48:13] Yeah, the psychology of twinning. [1:48:17] is kind of crazy. I went down the rabbit hole about like, you know, how they like, they'll put a door between, they'll do these on TikTok and Instagram. So they'll put a door between two twins and they'll go, okay, raise your right arm. And I'm sorry, they'll say, put up a finger. [1:48:31] or whatever, and they'll both do the exact same thing. They'll go dance in place, and they'll dance identical in place, even though they don't see what the other one's doing. [1:48:39] That's their instinctual thing. I know people that are twins that don't talk to their brother. [1:48:44] What do you mean? They don't like their brother. They just don't connect. How about that? How about he looks exactly like you and you don't like him? [1:48:53] That's that self-hate shit. I got that. You came out of the... I got that shit. [1:49:00] We imagine that it becomes your enemy. [1:49:02] Thank you. [1:49:03] You are your enemy? That is so... [1:49:06] That's so dystopian. That's so terrible. It's like Face Off. [1:49:10] No, it's worse. Yeah. Yeah. [1:49:12] It's literally you It's actually you They look exactly the same height, same weight Same body, face, image, everything It's you It looks like you It's like, oh, that's what I look like [1:49:25] Fuck that guy. Especially if one of them doesn't get jacked. It's very rare that they do. They usually kind of stay the same. They copy each other. Is that what it is? Yeah, usually they want to do the same things a lot. Imagine if your brother just starts a marathon running. Like, dude, I'm not fucking doing this. Yeah, I'm not doing this. Like, I'm going to get down to 140 pounds, and I'm going to run 100 miles. And you're like, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I want to be able to change a tire. Right. You fucking weigh 140 pounds, man. What are you doing? I want to run forever. Like, no, we're twins. We're twins.

[1:49:55] Don't do that. We have to look alike. We can't do this, bro. I'm not fucking getting skinny. Like my friend Cam, when he does like those 100-mile races, he gets real thin. He gets down to like 155 pounds. It's creepy looking. You have to. Because you shed so much, right? And also, doesn't it change your facial structure because of this pounding? Your body is eating itself. Yeah, bad news bears. But you're showing everybody your mind is strong enough to allow your body to do that. [1:50:24] Because you have to do that even before you run. So if Cam, like the heaviest that I've known him, he was probably like $1.80. And I think he's probably like somewhere in the $1.60-ish range now. And he just did it by not eating a lot and working out all day. Just fasting and working out? Yes. Just eating like he would map his calories out. [1:50:46] And that's it. So we can get real thin so he could run these long ass races because you don't see any jack dudes. [1:50:54] Well, you do see Goggins. He's pretty jacked. But he's jacked in like a slender, athletic – he's not like a beefy, like Brock Lesnar looking dude. Right. Like you're not going to see some Brock Lesnar looking dude that's going to run 200 miles. No. No. [1:51:07] I don't think you can do it. I don't think the body could handle that. [1:51:10] There's so much weight. I think if you're going to run something like that, you've got to condition yourself. And if you condition yourself with that kind of body for that long, you've got to break something. It doesn't work that way. It's going to buckle. That thing's designed for destroying. It's designed for running through walls and shit. It's not designed for running long-ass distances. You never got into long-distance running, did you? Any running at all? I've run. I used to run in the mountains a lot with my dog. He loves running.

[1:51:40] We take them to the hills and the canyons. Yeah. But I was always worried about mountain lions. Yeah. That's the thing. Because I have a golden retriever. And if a mountain lion just took out my golden retriever in front of me... [1:51:53] I have to fight. [1:51:54] I have to fight a mountain lion. And then I might lose my face. Did you hear about Rogan? He fought a mountain lion, dude. [1:52:01] Yeah. Wow. How'd it turn out? Not good. The show's not going to go on. Not good. There's no way. But you can't carry a gun in California. [1:52:09] No, you can't. It's not like you're ever going to need it. Right. But you might. No thing. It's not like you're ever, ever, ever, ever going to need it. You're probably not going to need it. You're right. You're probably not going to need it. But you might. But you might. But you might. And that's what's fucked because California does not control their mountain lion population. [1:52:39] minds that they would even if they let hunters hunt them because they they have to because they break it into people's yards and killing their dogs yeah and killing their cats you know in hollywood man there's kids have gone missing [1:52:51] from those mountain lions. Kids have gone missing from backyards. Well, what's the one that they put down, the piece, the one, the most famous one, they had to put it down because it killed some, or I don't know if it killed a person, but it did, it was called like [1:53:03] PC-145, whatever the code of it. We have a photo of that mountain lion. Didn't it kill somebody and they put it down? I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I don't think it ever killed a person. But did they have to put it down for some reason? I think it was really old. They used to have to dart it every couple of years, I think, and change its collar. Which is so nuts. Just dull. They wanted to know where the monster is. So they're like, let's keep the 150-pound monster wandering through the woods. Just put a collar around its neck so I know where it is when it's killing shit.

[1:53:33] This is like, it's very weird. The photo, you see the photo we have out there? I do remember that photo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's him with the Hollywood sign. Right, yeah. [1:53:41] It is LA. That photo to me... [1:53:45] is LA. When I point to people, I'm like, this is how stupid LA is. This is LA. This is LA. You have the Hollywood sign and you have a monster. Everybody knows it's a monster, but they just put a collar on his neck. It'll be fine. Just leave it alone. He's eating babies. He's eating fucking dogs and cats. He's eating everything. Listen, he was here first. They were here first. Joe, everybody's eating babies in Hollywood. You know that. That's not just the mountain lion, baby. Yeah, it's different. That's a different kind of cult. They had this lady, [1:54:15] in Malibu and she had an alpaca farm and this mountain lion was fucking up her alpacas. So if a mountain lion just realizes that animals are stuck in a pen, it doesn't just kill what it needs to kill. They only kill what they need to to survive. Uh-uh. No. It does what's called surplus killing. It just starts going ham and it killed like eight or nine alpacas before it got bored. It just ran. It just got annoyed. Twelve. So many. Oh my God. [1:54:45] this lady got a depredation permit. [1:54:48] And then when she filed for this depredation permit, it went public, and she started getting death threats. [1:54:57] Why? Because you can't kill the mountain lion. You can't kill the monster. Right. Right. [1:55:01] And this, again, this is for someone who's seen mountain lions in public. I love mountain lions. I love them. I think they're amazing. One of them killed my dog in Colorado. Oh, shit. Yeah. But I love mountain lions. They're awesome. They should definitely be around. But when they killed 12 alpacas, like, maybe you gotta send a message. Yeah. Yeah.

[1:55:23] Fuck you, bro. Can you show me a picture of an alpaca, though? While not in Malibu, another major mountain lion attack on an alpaca farm occurred in Lake County, California in August of 2025. In this incident, a band of mountain lions killed 17 alpacas over the course of several days. Holy shit, man. [1:55:42] The attack prompted authorities to issue a lethal depredation permit and reiterated that when in an enclosed area, a mountain lion's predatory instinct can lead to the overkill of multiple animals. We need them. They're an important part of our ecosystem. That is L.A. That's L.A. That's L.A. It's suicidal empathy. Yeah. Attached to a ridiculous ideology. I don't mind that thing being. Those are ugly. Get rid of those things. [1:56:09] Mountain lions did it. I'm on the mountain lions team. Yeah. Yeah, get that thing out of here. You just can't have cocky animals around. What is an alpaca good for? Why do people breed them? Probably the fur. [1:56:19] I bet they're wool. Yeah. I think alpaca, they make socks out of them, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, we're going to sheep. Aren't hollow socks, aren't those socks made with alpaca stuff? Yeah. [1:56:29] They're really good, solid socks. Alpacifer is supposed to be better. Is it better? Is it better? [1:56:33] I mean, we've been doing pretty good for cotton. Cotton's been all right for a while, huh? Oh, no, no, no. Cotton is not nearly as good as wool. [1:56:39] You okay? [1:56:40] I'll take it all. I don't give a shit. For stuff like that, the reason why like wool – like people think, oh, wool is not necessary. One of the reasons why wool is necessary, the reason why people use it in the first place is because you can be wet with wool on and you stay warm.

[1:56:56] If you're wet with cotton on, you're fucked. We've been in a pool with a shirt. Yeah, you know. We've been to the beach. Yeah, but it's just if you're in the woods and you go hiking and you get sweaty and then it gets cold out and you're stuck out there – [1:57:07] You're fucked. [1:57:08] But wool stays. Wool stays warm. [1:57:10] It's really amazing. Fine fleece. Most significant use, fiber production, alpacas being bred for their soft, fine fleece that's used to make high-quality clothing, blankets, and other textiles. So that's the thing about – [1:57:26] um [1:57:27] Stuff that's natural, like wool in particular, merino wool, it also doesn't smell bad. Like you could sweat in it for days and you don't stink. Like if I wear like a synthetic undergarment and I'm hiking, like if we're camping or if I'm in the woods for a couple days – [1:57:42] If you have anything that has like a plastic in it, a nylon, like any kind of a synthetic undergarment, they stink. They stink, yeah. They smell so bad. Yeah, it's gross. They smell so bad. It's like a hockey bag. You want to just peel them off you, and you get it, and you take it off. You smell it. You're like, what the fuck? You smell wool. You could wear it for days and days and days, and you don't stink in it. [1:58:06] That's wild. Because it's natural. Yeah. It's the best. It makes the best socks. It makes the best, like, my friend's company, First Light. [1:58:15] I think they were like one of the first companies that started doing merino wool and then they make like merino wool undergarments. And what's merino wool? It's just a type of wool, but it's like this very fine wool that like it feels like a cotton. It feels like this. And you put it on as like undergarments, a base layer. And if you sweat, you're OK.

[1:58:36] If you sweat with cotton on, you're in real trouble, man. Yeah, it stinks. Like, real trouble. It stinks. So that's why you need alpacas. I don't even know if alpacas work the same way, but Marino does. We'll keep them. The point is, these fucking mountain lions, you got to let them know who's boss. Yeah. Like, I'm not for killing mountain lions. I think they're awesome. I love them. [1:58:56] But I'm for killing some mountain lions. You know, I'm not for killing them all. Just a few. I'm not like killing them all. I'm like, no, you need a balance out there. Otherwise, you've got an overpopulation of animals. Right. But what you don't need is them killing your fucking kids. Okay? Because they will kill your kids. That's a mountain lion. They don't give a fuck. You leave a four-year-old inside and you're on the phone. And then I told him, you have to fucking respect me. I've been in this office for, and you hear, and your kids, the back of your kids fucking [1:59:26] now and this cat's running over a fence with them and you turn around your kid's gone like yeah that's real that's real that's real that's a cat it's a giant cat [1:59:36] that you can't control, and if it decides it's going to kill you, you're helpless. So shut the fuck up. [1:59:42] With all this Narnia nonsense. Shut up. You've got to kill a few of them. You've got to let them know who's the boss. You can't come in my fucking neighborhood, shithead. You don't put a collar on them and take pictures. So cute that they're in our neighborhood. Look, they're camping in front of my house. Yeah, they're waiting for your kid to go get his ball. [2:00:01] Are you fucking crazy? They just ate your neighbor's dog. Now they're waiting for your kid to get his ball. Authorities killed mountain lion after an 11-year-old girl attacked at the California home. Yeah. There you go. In Malibu. Yeah. Last month. Just shut the fuck up, you people. You're out of your mind. Yeah, we are. It's great. It's like these people, they don't know what animals are. They think they're living in a movie. They don't. What the Charlie Kirk thing. They don't know what an assassination is. You're cheering that someone got killed with gun violence. You're supposed to be the anti-gun violence people. Right.

[2:00:31] cheering for gun violence. Do you know how fucking crazy this makes you look? [2:00:36] You're cheering for gun violence against a guy who deplored violence. [2:00:40] Right. Yeah, adamantly. He was pretty loud about it, too. It's so stupid. Well, the disconnect, that's the really sad thing, is that [2:00:48] The death doesn't even... [2:00:49] When people die, it doesn't even feel like anything anymore for people. Exactly. They don't feel like it's a real person because they're used to talking about people and talking to people in a digital form online with no impact, like no consequences. You don't feel it from the person. You don't feel empathy because you hurt their feelings. It's just dead. It's sociopathic. [2:01:14] You know and it's like people just [2:01:17] I did not... [2:01:19] I wasn't I didn't know too much about Charlie Kirk. What I knew about him was some of the clips like I think most of us did. Some of the clips that you see online of him debating college kids. And I always thought. [2:01:33] Okay, I can see the point for it because these are voters and these are young people and they have been indoctrinated in a certain way of thinking and they probably never encountered anybody who can articulate – [2:01:47] What the other opinion is like, what a conservative perspective is like, what they think, the way they think you should approach life, the way they – you don't get to hear that at universities. You get to only hear one side of things.

[2:02:03] So on that side, I'm like, okay, [2:02:05] That's good about it. But it's also like you're dunking on these young kids, but also they should know that they can be dunked on because their ideas suck, right? Or be challenged at the very least. Yeah. [2:02:16] The fact that [2:02:17] that was enough to make people happy and cheer that he died. Yeah. [2:02:21] Because he was effective in what he was doing. That's what it was. And they felt like he was indoctrinating kids. Well, guess what? That's what conservatives feel like every day. They feel like you're indoctrinating kids. When you're gaslighting people and saying there's nothing wrong with having a drag queen story hour for kids. Like, no, it's not. You know what? We need ball gag story hour, too. Because it's a fetish, right? So let's have strap-on story hour. Like, let's get crazy. Like, what are we talking about? [2:02:51] with being a drag queen, but there's something weird about wanting to be alone and read kids a story where you dress like a woman and you're not. [2:03:00] And you're doing this for some weird kink. It's just weird that it's like a thing. It's weird that it matters, that it's like a thing people fight about. You're like, how is that a thing? It's probably not. It's probably more of the algorithm bullshit. Yeah, I bet you it's not. And then, by the way, actual drag queens, like, I don't know where I can read the kids, pick up a couple hundred bucks. Yeah, it was like, side gig. What a great gig. And then all of a sudden these super progressive schools are like, I'm booked up. Booked up in all the progressive schools while she's fucking chain-smoking camels. [2:03:30] By the way, speaking of sheep... [2:03:32] Have you heard Ghostface Killah's son's diss track?

[2:03:38] No. Okay. To who? To Ghostface Killer. Now, I don't – first of all, I do not know if this is real in this day and age of fucking crazy AI, but it's going all over the internet. Ghost's son going after him. Ghost's son who may or may not identify as a woman. [2:03:56] I am not sure, so I want to be careful. Sure. [2:03:59] Is going after Ghostface. Because in these days, you don't want the FCC breathing down your neck for being inaccurate, Mr. Santino. No, no. Don't ban me. Don't ban me, FCC. But, bro. [2:04:10] The flow. It makes you think like, okay, Ghostface Kill His Son, Infinite Coals, airs out family issues on two new songs. [2:04:18] I don't... [2:04:20] I generally don't like hearing people air out their family beefs live. Yeah. But put that aside and listen to the flow. Because this fucking dude can rap. This shit is hard. This dude can rap, man. But it just makes sense because it's like, can we play a little of it and then edit it out? Yeah, we'll edit it out. Not fucking bad, bro. It's pretty good. Not fucking bad. Bati boy, sweet face killer. I don't know. That would be in my head all day today. Bro, that was good. Bati boy, sweet face killer. I mean, I don't know what kind of a cry for help that is, but. [2:04:50] they don't get along yeah it seems like uh i'm mad at you but fucking what a flow like super talented isn't it crazy how like that kind of shit's genetic sometimes a hundred percent you know for sure you know you ever heard like someone who the like their dad was like a really good singer then you hear them singing like how are you doing that oh yeah where's that coming from oh you got it like in your jeans do you know lc cook is i just got the respondents that it's not a

[2:05:20] Oh, okay, good. It sounded... Even better. It sounded like it. But that sold it. That got people to look at it. Oh, my God. Good click. Well, that's the thing about rap music. You say things quick enough and fast enough, people are like, oh, did he diss him? Is he shitting on him right now? Did I miss that? No, it is genetic. Do you know who L.C. Cook is? No. Sam Cook's brother? Oh. Crazy. Dude, it's kind of wild. Like, he sounds... Brother is one thing, though, because they grew up together. Yeah, but... [2:05:43] That talent, the fact – because Sam was so good. [2:05:50] wrote, I rumored, I don't know how much of this is true, but LC wrote a lot of, co-wrote and helped a lot of stuff with Sam. But you listen to that record right there. Which one? That put me down easy. That record is one of my favorite fucking songs. Listen a little, we'll listen a little. I love this song, man. We'll have to edit this out too. Sorry, folks. [2:06:07] And you can... L.C. Cook's Put Me Down Easy. Damn. That was very good. And I just... The lyrics hit me so hard when he's like, look, I know you're going to screw me over. Will you just... Yeah. Don't make me... Just do it quick. Just put me down easy, baby. Just do it fast, dude. Just get it over with. Yeah, don't drag this out. Just get it over with. Don't pretend we might get back together again. Oh, it's such a good song. Then leave me hanging. But that's what I mean is like... [2:06:31] just because they're brothers. Yeah. But that's – it sounds like Sam reimagined. It's almost like AI Sam because I love Sam Coates, but that sounds exactly like him. There's a bunch of those guys from back in the day that kind of slipped through the cracks. Right. They never got the thing. [2:06:47] This just... [2:06:47] Some of them, like, they had some great-ass songs. What is that Strawberry Fields guy? I think Gillis told us about it.

[2:06:55] Who the kid that plays... Remember that one, Jamie? [2:06:58] Do you remember that song? It's on the Spotify. Hey, let me see if I can find it because it's on my Spotify playlist. [2:07:05] ChatGPT is still listening to me, that bitch. [2:07:09] I turned that shit off. She wants to know. [2:07:13] Where are you getting your information from? Do you ever feel bad about what you say? Did she say that? That's so funny. No, that would be funny, though. Joe Rogan, your perspective is just yours. Here it is. Strawberry letter 23. [2:07:26] By Shuggie Otis. That's a cover song. [2:07:29] Is it? Yeah, it's originally by the Brothers Johnson. [2:07:35] Oh, that's a cover song? Yeah, I heard this. [2:07:39] Here's my fate, but that's such a good song. I heard it in the background of another song. Did you guys hear that? Is anyone hearing that? No one knew what the fuck I was talking about. It baked out of your head. You want to hear the number one most ridiculous song that for some reason or another the guy didn't become famous. This is from 1969. [2:07:59] Johnny Thunder, and he made this song called I'm Alive. [2:08:03] And... [2:08:04] Brian Simpson brought into the green room when the mothership is like this is gonna be one of your new favorite songs like you got to listen to song and I played it in the green room and I was like oh my god I'm alive and then we had to look it up and we there was a bunch of misinformation and disinformation online couldn't figure out who this cat was apparently he recorded this song it was a cover of another song that had been recorded by another artist like a band that was pretty famous I forget who it was.

[2:08:33] Who's the other band that recorded it? [2:08:35] Like a known name. [2:08:38] His version is so much better. It's so much better. It's so good that you listen to this and you're like, oh, this guy's going to be famous. There's no way. Like if I was living in 1969 and I heard that song on the radio, I'm like, oh, we got a new superstar. Who's this guy? Did he die early? Is that what it is? He died young? [2:08:57] I don't know when he died. [2:08:58] I think we looked that up as well. [2:09:01] When did Johnny Thunder die? He actually has the first recording of it. Yeah, he recorded it, but it was not his... [2:09:07] It was the other band's song. What was the other band? Well, that might not even be true, right? They might have fucked him over. I'm like, no, we're going to do our version. That's our song. Excuse me. That's Elvis' song. He's going to contact you. How many times has that happened? They were like, this is a good song. That's Elvis' song now. Yeah. Elvis owns that song. Yeah. If you want to sue Elvis, try to get that song back. Tom Jones actually recorded it, too. Tom Jones? Tom Jones, but that was afterwards, correct? Yeah, Whaley. Who was the other band, though, that recorded it? It was a Deep Purple Water version of it and another group. [2:09:37] Another version. Deep Purple. Deep Purple. That's it. Deep Purple was famous. God damn, that's a good song. [2:09:42] That's a damn good song. That's a damn good song. I would pet everything I had in 1969. Johnny, you're going to be huge. Huge. You're going to be huge. I could see it right now. Madison Square Garden, Johnny Thunder sold out. Hello, man. Oh, my God. That feels like a Tarantino movie. Do you know what I mean? I like that. The guy is that good. Just write him songs, you fucking assholes. Yeah, just give him the song. Get a team together. Get Johnny a nice apartment. Johnny, we got it.

[2:10:12] year ago. Wow. He died last year. Yeah, last year in Winter Park, Florida. Fuck. How old? 93. Wow. That might have been when Brian Simpson brought that song. No, we were talking about it more than a year ago. Yeah, because it made it on the commercials and stuff after the fact. That's right. So we started talking about it and then it made it into commercials. [2:10:29] Thank you. [2:10:29] Like they started using it for like Jeep commercials or some shit. I don't know. It was Jeep. What was it? Samsung and Lincoln. [2:10:37] Something else. He dies. You talk about it. It goes viral. They're like, just use that song. Well, I'm glad they did just so people, more people hear it. But there's people like that that just sort of slipped through the cracks of history. [2:10:49] And for whatever reason, we don't need to never hear about him. But that guy's... [2:10:52] That guy was good. That's very, very good. That's like platinum selling album good. You hear that song like, okay, we got it. All we need is a bunch of those. Just turn those out. Listen, we got a bunch of guys that are like Chris Stapleton type dudes who just write songs. If you're a Nashville person, there are songwriters, professionals who will sit down and they will come up with a fucking jam for you. [2:11:22] arenas let's go let's go why are you driving a fucking regular car johnny johnny thunder johnny thunder thunder let's go thunder you need a mercedes-benz s-class johnny thunder you want a limo johnny thunder you need to start flying private yeah yeah [2:11:39] Thank you. [2:11:40] There's certain guys like that, you're like, man, he just didn't have the right team around him. Or something else. Or life got in the way, or he was making more money working on other people's shit. Or he's a self-saboteur. That is a big one. Some people are self-saboteurs. We know these people in the business. Oh, yeah, man. There's a lot of guys that we both came up with.

[2:11:59] You know, you look back and you go, I thought that guy was going to be huge. [2:12:03] Yeah, man, I think about that. There's a few people that I know that that it bums me out because you're like, what were you afraid of that the thing? Because you could have had it. [2:12:13] I don't know if it's that. [2:12:15] I think a lot of it is just being on your own. [2:12:18] and not having any kind of support in terms of like a community of friends. [2:12:24] That's a lot of the reason why a lot of people, as they get older especially, start behaving really irrationally and losing their minds. They're alone, essentially. They don't have a family. They dedicated their entire life to their career. And then they get to a certain age. And there's no one who's really excited about them out there in the world. And they get real bitter. That's very sad. It's very sad. But they just missed out on the fun part. The fun part is having a bunch of friends. [2:12:54] Yeah. It's the most fun part. Like Stan Hope said this famously once. He said, I could quit comedy, but I could never quit comics. Hmm. [2:13:03] Yeah, that is more fun even than doing stand-up is hanging out with comics. And we're all just being silly together. It's fun. Like we were in Chicago a couple weeks ago. What a great time. We had a great fucking time. Santito sat right behind me while the fights were going on. We had some fucking great food. We had late-night Italian beef. Yeah, it was great. You know how cool the day that was for me? I went to the Cubs game. I sat behind home plate, and then I went right from the Cubs game to come see you. That's amazing. It was like a monumental stay.

[2:13:33] Like, this is going to be one of the best days I've had. And it just – like, I was riding on a high all day. Oh, yeah. Cruising. What a day. What a day. [2:13:40] Last night I was at your club having a fun time with all the boys. Gillis came down, and when he comes down, that's when he starts it up, dude. Yeah, I know. He's the best. That club's got a great vibe, man. It really does. It's got a great vibe. And that's the thing. It's like if you're on the outside, you look at it and you go, oh, fuck those people. That's a completely normal way to react. Sure. It's completely normal. Yeah. But we're not saying fuck you. Yeah. [2:14:05] Like, trust me, just relax. Just relax. Come give me a hug. Come give me a hug. We're all okay. We should not be worried about this stupid shit. And this is one of the things that I always hope. [2:14:18] happens when there's a tragedy like a public figure gets executed. [2:14:23] People just start having a little grace, just to give people a little grace. Just a little bit more. Yeah, take the temperature down, America. Because regardless of who shot that guy, that guy was shot and then the reaction was horrible and then the reaction to the reaction is equally horrible. Everyone's horrible, right? [2:14:44] We're a community. [2:14:45] We're supposed to be a community. [2:14:46] It's not supposed to be right versus left. That's stupid. We don't want to do World War III in the continental United States. We don't want another fucking civil war. That's crazy. [2:14:58] Just we need to stop. Just stop being so divisive and stop rewarding politicians for being so divisive.

[2:15:06] Jimmy Kimmel returns. ABC ends suspension starting Tuesday. See, called it. You did. Called it. You know what I thought he was going to do is get into different media now, like Conan with his podcast. I thought he was going to do that too. Well, that probably would be a good thing for him to do. I could see him doing that. Yeah, but they're really smart to do this because the wave of people watching, I bet he gets the highest ratings he's ever had. Ever, ever, ever. They'll be nuts. Yeah, the ratings will be nuts. Look at that coming back. Listen, man, it's like – [2:15:34] You can't – it's the Streisand effect. You can't do that. [2:15:38] You can't remove someone for talking badly about you in 2025 if that's what happened. [2:15:43] If that is the way it goes. If that's what happens. If that's what happens. I suspect there's a lot of factors. One of the factors is declining ratings, right? So as the ratings go down, then people get more and more sensitive about subject matter, more and more sensitive about advertising because, you know, you're already like the show is kind of in a bad direction. [2:16:04] As it is, look, the ratings are dropping because people are getting annoyed with it being too political or whatever narrative they could say. Sure. And, you know. [2:16:11] There's advertisers that get upset because they might be – [2:16:15] Right wing. It is a decision we made because we felt some of the comments were ill-timed and thus insensitive, the statement said. We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy. After those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show. [2:16:28] on Tuesday. [2:16:29] Good. Good. [2:16:31] Good. [2:16:32] Good. So in my mind, in my mind, he wins, right? He wins. But you know,

[2:16:39] Take the temperature down, everybody. [2:16:41] Like we don't want more killings. We want to figure out what's the right thing for everybody. And classifying someone like I've heard people say the worst shit about Charlie Kirk post his death. And like I said, I wasn't too aware of what the stuff that he had done. I was aware of some of the things that he'd done that were really brilliant. Some conversations that he had that I thought were very kind. And I was aware of some of the things that he said. I was like, oh, why did you put it that way? You know, like, why did you say that? [2:17:11] Even if it's possible to take something like that out of context, it makes you look terrible. But it is just out of context. That's the problem. But out of context works in this day and age. So I just wish he hadn't said the things that he said the way he said them. But I don't think he's an evil person. [2:17:41] Like there's been some good critiques of some of the debates that he had with college kids that are online where he's like, no, he's not correct with what he said. Like one of the things is about George Floyd. Right. [2:17:54] And he kept saying that the medical examiner said that George Floyd would have died of that overdose. That's not true. And we've heard that too. And so then we looked it up, right? And it wasn't – the medical examiner didn't say that, correct?

[2:18:11] I don't think that's true. And I think he had already printed a retraction. Let's see. This is the problem with like a debate about. [2:18:19] in a microphone, in a public place where people are cheering and screaming, and you're trying to form your argument. You're not even good at doing it, and you're doing it to a guy who's a professional at doing this. [2:18:31] It's a stupid way to have conversations, but better than no way at all, right? And in those colleges, you don't get any of those kind of conversations with your professors. That's why it was really healthy for him. I think a lot of people say, oh, he targeted young people. And you're like, well, there's two ways to look at that. One, it's because I feel like they are the most susceptible to maybe hearing you out, right? You're not changing my dad's mind. I'll tell you that. He's not going to go fucking. He's got his perspective. His feet above the couch. Shut the fuck up. No, but I think that. [2:19:01] Thanks. [2:19:02] It's not to prove that he was going to outwit these people. I think it was to have actual discourse and to start discourse on campus. It was also to get popular. Yeah, well, he wanted to be famous. He's doing this and spreading these ideas, but he believed in it. He's very religious. [2:19:15] But here's the thing. Like, he's not this terrible person that they're trying to make him out to be. So to take a 31-year-old guy who's a father and he's got two very young children and he's married. He's got a family. He's got this wife who loves him. And to cheer that he got shot in the head for his ideas, we've lost the plot. [2:19:37] We've lost the plot. If there's a group of children out there in college, young people out there, young adults that are cheering, and then older adults too, who are cheering this. My friend was in a coffee shop.

[2:19:50] And this lady was beside him on a Zoom call. [2:19:54] And this is like right after Charlie Kirk was killed. And she gets on her Zoom call and she goes, well, I had an unexpectedly great day today. How about you girls? And they were like, today was amazing. And they weren't really saying why today was amazing. But it was very clear that they were celebrating the fact that this guy who was a father and a husband was murdered before his ideas. That's not the way to do it, folks. [2:20:24] what the guy says for god's sake i didn't like everything the guy said but but when they but people were like it's so short-sighted yeah this is what we need you're like a dude how what how was your brain function it's so crazy it's so crazy it's it's all just infected by social media and all these people who think like this are all online almost all day yeah they live in it yes they live in it they're they're in the shit all day long like reading the comments and you're [2:20:54] think go outside yeah you're you need more than that you need mushrooms and hugs you need a lot but this this fucking thing that we're all caught in this tide of electronics is leading us in that direction it's like an inhuman reaction like you you're separated from the norm of human interaction like the warmth of a person's smile and give me a hug like all that stuff that how many times

[2:21:24] laughing at the end of it. That's every comic conversation I have. But online, it doesn't happen that way. No, it can't. It doesn't even happen sometimes with people you know. [2:21:34] Like, [2:21:34] I was in the woods in Utah for a week. I was out there elk hunting, and there's no service out there. There's a little bit of service at one peak you get at. You can make a few phone calls and check text messages. And so I was getting some text messages that were showing me that Kimmel got – [2:21:51] fired. Oh, look at this. Jesus Christ. This is crazy. And my thought was, [2:21:57] What did he say? Oh, my God. What did he say? He said something about Charlie Kirk after he got killed. That's crazy. Then I saw what he said. I was like, well, that's not that bad. No. That's not... [2:22:06] accurate but it's like in my mind as a comic i'm like he's just setting up this bit i'm like and then i'm watching everybody freak out about this like and then i saw okay am i looking at it wrong [2:22:16] Okay, it is kind of misleading because he's kind of saying that – [2:22:22] They're trying to label this person as anyone other than themselves, which is like a little weird. Political finger pointing. Yeah. So that's not – that's inaccurate. But instead – [2:22:33] I didn't get upset. I didn't understand. And then I started really realizing that people were upset at me because I wasn't saying anything. I wasn't in support of it. I was like, I'll show you a picture where I am right now. Hunting elk. Yeah, like literally. This is a picture of where I was. Yeah. I was up in the mountains. But even then, you don't get to tell people what they should and shouldn't comment on while you're silent about Gaza.

[2:23:03] Yeah, what are we talking about? [2:23:05] If I check, if I go through your social media and there's no organized outrage about what's happening right now in Gaza – [2:23:12] And you're upset that there's a comedian that got, for a few days, his show got stopped because he said mean things about the president. Like – [2:23:22] There's some other shit in the world that might be more important than this. And you might need medication. You might be a fucking crazy shut-in. You might be a person that's addicted to your phone. Get the fuck outside. Yeah, get off your fucking phone. You don't require other people to comment on things. I read one comic said, if you have a big platform and you're not commenting, all I can see is how much you love the taste of boot leather. Shut the fuck up. [2:23:52] meddle down. Or I'm with my family right now having a meal. This is one of the reasons why I've been off social media for like the last seven, eight months, mostly. [2:24:01] Like I'll look at it occasionally. I hardly ever post. And if I do post, it's just stuff about shows. Like I did a show here. Here's a picture of this fun thing. That's it. But I don't read anything about me at all. [2:24:11] I know guys that have lost their minds. They're in that all day long, having conversations with people on Twitter all day long, debating points, arguing stuff all day long, making response videos, making other videos, going and talking about it on a podcast. Like, what are you doing with your life, man? Yeah, it's weird. This is nuts. Well, everybody raised a lot of these people that were like, boycott ABC and Disney.

[2:24:36] cancel it. And I was like, well, don't do that. Not only that, they made video. Ron Perlman made a video. He's like, I'm on there. He subscribed and then unsubscribed. I was like, what are you doing, dude? Like, [2:24:45] Settle down. Relax. Relax. But also... [2:24:49] If it is, [2:24:50] That the government tried to silence Jimmy Kimmel because they were trying to push through some sort of a merger and he doesn't like Jimmy Kimmel. So they – yeah, that should be exposed. That's fucked up. I'm going to need to see some emails. I want to see some emails. I want to see some emails. This is one of the reasons why you need that Israeli spying software. [2:25:09] Yeah, we got to get that. We need it all. Everyone needs it. We have no encryption. No encryption anymore. We need to all read each other's phones. I need to know, what did you guys plan? What did you say? [2:25:17] Show me what you said. Show me. Show me what you said. Show me. Show it right now. You son of a bitch. I think they're going to come out and find out. [2:25:23] We'll find out. It'll get exposed. Jamie, tell me if this is true. [2:25:28] That there is a – [2:25:31] This is something that someone sent me, that every Samsung phone... [2:25:36] from 2022 on has something installed in it. [2:25:42] called AppCloud. [2:25:44] App Cloud. Yeah, and it's a backdoor, and it allows you – here, I'll send you this thing, Jamie. [2:25:50] I don't know. [2:25:52] I do not know if this is true. It sounds ridiculous. [2:25:55] It allows someone to potentially get into your phone. But I asked a friend of mine who's a legit expert in this kind of shit. He said, all they need is your phone number. All that stuff is nonsense. I go, really? He goes, yes. Is that easy? It's that easy. With Pegasus 2, he goes, all they need is your phone number. So all this thing of like backdoor apps, like, eh.

[2:26:13] So what? They need your phone number. They can just access everything. Everything. Jesus Christ. Yeah. [2:26:17] It's a joke. Why aren't we doing that then to people that we need to access their phones? Well, they do. That's how the Israelis fucked everybody up. You've got to give it to them, dude. Them pagers. That pager shit was wild. Genius shit. One of the most genius fucking operations I've ever heard a government pull off. Send people pagers. They have those pagers for a long time before they blew them up. [2:26:39] They're like, yeah, send them out. How long did they have those pagers before they detonated them, Jamie? I want to say it was over a year. It was like a government-sponsored program they gave them to these people, right? Is that what it was? Well, the thing is they were using pagers because they knew that if they were using cell phones that the Israelis had – [2:26:55] electronics that could read everything so they could spy on all their phones so to get around that they decided to use pagers so the israelis knew that they were going to use pagers because they have people embedded in these organizations they have people that are literally acting like they're hezbollah or hamas they're inside there and then they're israelis and so these people got a hold of their order before it they so they order a bunch of pagers they get a hold of it [2:27:25] nations, rig it with explosives, repackage it, send it to them. So then they get it like, good, got the pager. Fuck these Israelis. They're putting a little bomb right next to your dick. It's crazy. And you're walking around with this thing for, I think, a year or so. Jesus. [2:27:42] I'm seeing five months. I can't hear you. I'm seeing five months. Five months. No, no, the actual, but it wasn't, yeah, it didn't all happen in once. Okay. Five months. It went on for how long?

[2:27:52] An hour. An hour. So for an hour, everywhere you look, pagers are blowing up on dudes' dicks. And think about where your pager is. It's right there. Right there. Right where your balls are. Boom! Big old bowling ball hole where your legs used to be. Wild. Wild. And they planned it out months and months in advance. How about what they did to the Iranians? [2:28:16] Do you know what they did with them? They had this thing. They made a phone call. We need a meeting of everybody. Meet in the bunker. And they met him. But it was a prank phone call. So all these Iranian guys, they met in the bunker, and they fucking dusted that bunker. They just blew it apart. Well, they thought it was coming from a higher order, and they were like, yeah, we'll see you down there. Oh, boy, we're under attack. Let's go meet at the bunker. Boom. Boom. That's nuts, dude. Genius. [2:28:39] Yeah. Genius. They know what they're doing. They're plotting. Oh, they're real good at it. [2:28:42] They're real good at it. Yeah, they're real good at it. [2:28:48] It's uncomfortable. It's crazy. [2:28:51] If I was Jewish, I'd be like, yeah, we're the best. Bro, we fucking rule. Have you seen it? We rule at this shit. Have you seen what we've been doing? [2:29:00] Get everybody to come over here, put the hat on. [2:29:03] Did you see that Benjamin Netanyahu gave like this two-minute speech about how offensive it was that people said that Israel killed Charlie Kirk? [2:29:13] No. [2:29:14] He just made some video about it. [2:29:18] No one said that. What? I've never heard that. Tell me more. Yeah, who said that? Tell me more. Who's saying this?

[2:29:25] See, that's the kind of shit that I think when they plant information like that. And then it becomes true, right? Because then people online do start saying it. Yeah. So you're just feeding the false narrative becomes a real narrative. And he goes, see? [2:29:37] Well, it could be that he got hoodwinked. [2:29:40] He's an older dude, right? So he's probably not on TikTok. He probably doesn't have his thumb to the pulse of young people. And someone comes in. Because Trump didn't understand when he would go to his rallies and he would talk about the vaccine, the people would boo. [2:29:53] He didn't understand. He's like, why are they doing it? The vaccine was amazing. I did it. It was all me. And they're like, no, no, no. We don't like the vaccine. He didn't know. So he doesn't have his thumb on the pulse. Right. So if someone comes to him, they're saying we did it. We didn't do it. [2:30:06] They're saying we did it. You really need to respond. Well, I'll tell people that we didn't do it. And then he goes out and responds, well, he looks like he did it now. Right. Right? And that could be a trick. [2:30:14] Because there's still a bunch of people in Israel trying to get rid of him, too. Oh, yeah. Like the day of October 7th, the day before, there was thousands of people in the streets protesting him. Right. They don't like him. Well, there's some people that do. There's some people that don't. Sure. Just like Trump. You know, you could say, oh, the Americans hate Trump. No. Half the Americans hate Trump. Half the Americans think he's the shit. They love it. [2:30:36] They're like tired. They're tired of liberals. They're tired of people with blue hair screaming in their face. They're tired. And there's a contingency of people that don't give a fuck, but they're like, that's fine. I don't care. [2:30:45] They'll join the Republicans because the other people are so annoying. At least the Republicans leave them alone. That's what happens. They just want to be left alone. Yeah, you guys are screeching and telling people what to do and what they have to say. Like, you know, you do what I tell you to. You take that post down. Like, you do what the fuck. Yeah, yeah. See what I'm saying? Take that post down.

[2:31:05] that post down. They want control over you. Expressing your opinions. That ain't good from either side, kids. That's dangerous. There's something with the AppCloud thing. I found the post you posted, but I just asked Grok instead to see what it said. What did Grok say? Grok says it's a pre-installed system service on many Samsung Galaxy smartphones, particularly mid-range and budget models like the A-Series as well as some of the S-Series devices. Depending on the carrier or region, it functions as an app recommendation and installation tool [2:31:35] often games and promotional content based on user behavior, location, and preferences. This is part of Samsung's partnerships with carriers and app developers to generate revenue by subsidizing device costs through the preloaded or suggested installs. Boy, I don't like all that language. There is a bunch of videos and posts about... [2:31:54] how to take it off and how to disable it. So it's widely viewed as bloatware or adware due to its intrusive nature. It can be easily uninstalled. Oh, it can't be easily uninstalled. And notifications are non-dismissible. [2:32:09] That's gross. It's not essential for core phone function is often absence from carrier free or unlocked devices bought directly from Samsung. OK, so it's not a Samsung issue. It's someone else puts it on a Samsung phone. There's no verified evidence supporting claims of data being sent to external entities like intelligent firms. These appear to stem from misinformation on social media online. [2:32:34] Or you're lying.

[2:32:40] This post people were posting on Instagram two days ago. It mentions iron source, which that did not. [2:32:45] So I googled iron source. [2:32:47] And in 2022, which is when you said that started. Israeli software company, now part of Unity that provides a platform for mobile app creators to monetize their apps through user acquisition and advertising. Funded in 2010, significant presence in Tel Aviv. The company has merged with the U.S. gaming firm Unity in November 2022 to form an end-to-end platform for the app economy. What does that mean? What was all that? What did you just say? [2:33:16] What did you just say, man? [2:33:17] Israelis, iron source trades in New York. They are the best at it. They figured out Pegasus. That's how whoever got Jeff Bezos got him. They got him through a WhatsApp link. [2:33:28] So that was the first Pegasus. I'd send you a WhatsApp message like, Santino, you've got to check this out. And you'd be like, what is it? And so you'd check out some... [2:33:35] You know, some X article that I send you. But as you're clicking on it, it puts an exploit into your phone. So now they have full access to your phone. [2:33:44] Dick pics, all your photos, all your dirty little text messages. All my dick pics are from Jamie. But now with Pegasus 2, all they need is your phone number. Fuck. [2:33:54] Just your phone number. [2:33:56] Bonkers. Yeah. That's so dark. It's nuts. [2:33:59] How can they protect it? You can't protect it. Yeah. [2:34:02] It's really hard. And then you think, well, I'll just use encrypt apps – [2:34:06] Encrypted apps like... Well, WhatsApp does that, right? WhatsApp, yeah. And then there's also Signal. Oh, yes, Signal. And then there's like Telegram and a few other ones, but...

[2:34:15] They can get in those too if they want to. They did it with Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson was going to the Soviet Union. It doesn't exist anymore. He was going to Russia to talk to – that was a Freudian because they were probably trying to bring that bitch back. He was going to Russia to try to meet with Putin, and they found out, and they contacted him, and they said, we read your signal. And he's like, what? [2:34:37] I didn't even know you could do that. [2:34:38] What did he say on this? What was it? Well, his signal chat was he was going back and forth with someone about setting up a meeting with Putin. [2:34:47] Hmm. [2:34:48] And so the State Department or whoever it was, whoever it was in the Biden administration, made the call to spend an extraordinary amount of money to unencrypt. [2:35:00] His signal. Jesus. [2:35:02] Yeah, and read his messages because, you know, you're not supposed to be talking to people we don't like. [2:35:06] Can't be talking to people you don't like. Yeah, we might get a wrong opinion of who that person is, which I kind of get it. I know what you're saying. [2:35:14] I don't ever think that not talking to people is the solution, but I do understand what they're saying. [2:35:20] Yeah, but traditionally, don't we usually try to talk to people so we can try to figure out how we can make some headway? It would be the better... [2:35:27] option for everybody, especially if cooler heads could prevail. But the thing about this Ukraine-Russia thing is like I think Trump – [2:35:35] grossly [2:35:36] underestimated the amount of work that it's going to take to stop this. [2:35:39] You know, when he got – when he was running, he was saying, one day, get me in the office and one day I'll have a deal.

[2:35:47] No. There's no deal. And the thing is like Putin is very smart. [2:35:52] He's not going to. [2:35:53] you know, he's going to play. [2:35:55] He's going to cat and mouse this. You can't just say, I'm going to be able to do a deal with Putin because I'm the alpha. He's like, really? That's not how it works. I feel like pushing into Poland. Things can get real squirrely because of that because you can't – [2:36:11] That's a former KGB guy. [2:36:15] who is like a Russian... [2:36:20] nationalist, right? Like he's the president of Russia for how long now? How long has he been running Russia? Forever. I mean, since I can remember, I don't know. [2:36:28] How long has he been around? You can't out-alpha that guy. No, he's the guy. Yeah. I mean, maybe you can have some sort of a deal can be made. But if you think you're going to be able to say, I'll have a deal tomorrow, he's like, nah. No, you won't. I don't think so. I'm going to the woods. I'm going to go fuck something. I think you will wit. I think you'll wait. He's riding a bear with no shirt on. I think you'll have to wit. [2:36:52] I will ride there. You know, there's a lot of people that think he might be one of the richest men alive. [2:36:56] Well, they don't disclose, so who knows? He has no idea. No one has any idea how much money he has. [2:37:01] you know [2:37:02] And he's not going to just listen to you. No. You're poor to him. Yeah, you mean nothing. Trump's only got like a couple billion. Like, shut up. You like a couple billion dollars? You're good. [2:37:11] Not bad for you. I have boat your size. Size of your entire GDP. I have yacht the size of White House. They got some crazy-ass yachts. They stole, too. That was another weird thing during the Ukrainian invasion.

[2:37:23] Everybody's like, yeah, well, all your rich friends were stealing their boats. [2:37:27] They stole all the yachts from all the oligarchs. Oh, that's funny. And I was always like, where do those yachts go? Who gets to keep them? [2:37:33] What's going on? I just... He's got him. No! No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They stole it from the Russians. Oh, shit. The international community. Oh, shit. [2:37:42] Where are they now? A lot of them are parked in ports and they have to be maintained because otherwise you lose the value of the boats. And those – like a boat, like one of them Russian oligarch yachts, bro, that is millions and millions of dollars every year just to maintain it. Just to maintain it. [2:37:59] just to maintain it. [2:38:01] And then, like, every couple of years, you've got to pull it out of the fucking water, and they've got to clean it and put new paint on it. And like, oh! Do you know how much money that costs? Yeah. You have to be so rich just to maintain it. And then they just took them from them. And then they just have them somewhere. And then the states... The states are paying for it. Yeah. Like, there was one of them that was in Italy. And so the Italians had to pay. And they're like, we don't have this fucking money! I don't want to pay for this! Why am I paying for this? They're fucking... [2:38:27] I mean, how many – let's find out. Let's take a guess. How many Russian oligarch – [2:38:32] Yachts. [2:38:33] were [2:38:34] Captured. [2:38:36] How many do you think were confiscated? If you had to guess. [2:38:39] I want to say 14. Oh, I was going to say, I wanted to say something in the number of like 30 or 40. I mean, the amount of money that's out there on these guys, I mean, it's endless. It's an endless trail of money. I bet you a lot of these people had multiple yachts. [2:38:52] I bet. They got a yacht for a yacht. You got a tug yacht. You got a yacht for your hoes. You got a yacht for the hoes. Yacht for your family. Yacht for the family. Yeah.

[2:38:59] Yacht for your other family. [2:39:02] They have yachts to get the yachts. A yacht just for cocaine. Yeah. This is cocaine yacht. It's my cocaine yacht. My cocaine yacht. Do you want to go? Look, it's all black. Get it? [2:39:10] Get it? It's all black, not white. Get it? I trick them. I trick. I'm clever. This is where my cocaine is. It looks, you could find all the coke. Everything is black. The floors, the tables. There's coke everywhere. [2:39:21] If you lose a little Coke, you know where it goes. You just look for the white stuff. You can see. I haven't found the number yet, but one of them I was looking up, they got it in Fiji, and I was already reading about how they had it shipped back to Hawaii, but now it's for auction. [2:39:37] Oh, we should buy it. Yeah, but now you're going to be the owner of this Russian guy's yacht that wants it back. [2:39:43] No, no, no. He's going to understand. Because they said he wanted to buy it back. No, no, no. I'm going to tell him. I'm going to tell him. Bro, it's mine now. I'm sorry. [2:39:50] He'll just let you have it. $300 million. It was worth $300 million when it was seized in 2022. [2:39:56] Look at the size of it. It has six decks, I think is what this is. It's a fucking apartment. 348-foot vessel. It's an apartment building. Yeah. Not an apartment. That's what I meant. An apartment building. It's apartments. Yeah. The U.S. government seized the gleaming yacht three years ago when it was docked in a marina in Fiji with local assistance. [2:40:13] They argued that the vessel called Amadea, Latin for God's love, was owned by Suleiman Kermov, a Russian oligarch under U.S. sanctions with a network worth of $16.4 billion, according to Forbes, and ties to President Vladimir Putin of Russia. Isn't that funny? All you have to do is have ties to him and they can steal your boat.

[2:40:34] $16.4 billion. Yeah. And that's probably a guess, right? Well, that's what's weird. It's like ties to them. What are the extent of those ties? How do they know each other? Someone else owned it on paper, though. Oh, on paper, the owner was a different wealthy Russian, Edouard... [2:40:48] You got it. Kudenatov. Kudenatov. Kudenatov. One time pig breeder, Jesus Christ, who had not been sanctioned by the United States. Mr. Kudenatov's claim on the Amadea began a legal battle that has delayed the yacht's sale and could pose problems for its eventual owner. Well, if they just stole it from the pig farmer, then what the fuck, U.S.? Yeah, what are we doing? [2:41:10] How'd this guy get it? How'd the first guy get it? [2:41:13] This is obviously bought in someone else's name. Which guy? The first guy you said. Oh, the oligarch? Yeah, that's who they took it from. [2:41:19] He was borrowing it. He was borrowing it. He asked me to borrow. When you're that rich, bro, it's a flex. Let me take that yacht. You want to borrow my yacht? Take it. I don't give a shit. Take the yacht. Kill the chef. I don't care. Kill the chef. Shoot him in the head if you don't like the way you're sticky. The chef's just standing there. Boom. Please spare me. There was at least six or seven other yachts I was reading up on, and that was not the biggest one. That's not the biggest one? No, no, no. Whoa, what's the biggest one they seized? I'm telling you. Those guys are balling. Skolars. They're balling. 141 meters. That's slightly bigger. [2:41:49] I wonder why Nancy Pelosi keeps embezzling money like this. Smart. She wants another yacht. She's insider trading. Yeah, insider trading. She's doing it legally, though. Yeah, of course. So what the fuck? They're all doing it legal. Why complain? Yeah. Wow. Whoa! That's a little bigger. See, when you're around all this, you're like, why did the Russians get all the yachts?

[2:42:10] Nirvana. [2:42:11] Paul, we need more money. [2:42:14] That is fucking insane. Look at the size of that bullshit little jet ski next to that thing. Look at how big that is. Bro, that yacht's giant. That's huge. [2:42:23] Three decks. [2:42:24] How many feet long is that? These are listed in meters. 80 meters. 82 meters. What is that? Nah, it's... 240 feet about? It's about the same. Look at you. That was quick. It's like three. [2:42:35] Yeah, just about three. There's like a formula that you do when you convert like meters to yards. [2:42:43] How do you do that? [2:42:44] Someone told me from the archery community, told me how to do that if you have a range finder that says meters. 1.09. Right, that's right, yeah. [2:42:55] Meters and yards. [2:42:57] So if it's like, [2:42:59] Which one's longer? [2:43:00] Did you meet her? [2:43:01] Oh. Okay, so 100 meters, like 110 yards? Yeah. Okay. Give or take, yeah. There you go. The only reason I know that is because of golf. I know. If you golf overseas, they always do meters. Right. And they don't convert for you. Oh. So you'll go – when they say it, they'll go, you know, down in Australia. [2:43:18] Like 128. And you're like, 128. Oh, you're going to do it for yourself? Oh, no. I had my phone out at one point. I was like, 128. Oh, that's funny. They were making fun of me. They're like, come on, mate. You don't have any fucking conversions. I'm like, no, I don't have any conversions, man. They taught us in high school, and then they gave up. [2:43:35] Well, I gave up. But they gave up by the time I was out of high school. They stopped doing it. Same thing with cursive. This is 85. They gave up. But they gave up on the metric system in 85. They were going to try to impart the metric system in the entire country. Yeah, we weren't interested. Nope. Fuck you. Fuck you, too. We got the bomb, bitch. We got the bomb. Dude, we're doing our own numbers, man. We're digging inches. You can suck my dick. Suck my inchy dick. Inches and pounds. Go fuck yourself with your metric system. It's kind of funny.

[2:44:03] Yeah, I like it. Fuck you and fuck soccer. Fuck you. [2:44:08] America was like, we're not doing it. Yeah, we didn't do it. Not doing it. Sorry. No, we got a sport like soccer, but it's like concussion. We just run at each other full fucking speed, crushing each other. Yeah. [2:44:22] Gladiator shit. [2:44:24] Yeah, I wonder what's worse for you, that or fighting. [2:44:28] I used to think it was that, but then I started watching some documentaries about old-time fighters. [2:44:36] Bad. Oh, my God, dude. Well, you remember when the NHL was going to ban fighting, and then I think they found out, there was research that found out that the most concussions that came from on the ice were from... [2:44:48] board hits. Oh yeah, for sure. Heads bouncing off the board. Yeah, for sure. So they were like, the fights weren't, because you're so unstable on skates, [2:44:55] the fighting wasn't as brutal as obviously ground fighting because you have you have you have stability right i saw a dude judo throw a guy though it's pretty rad [2:45:06] On ice? Yeah. It's kind of uncool. It's not cool. If the guy takes his helmet off and you judo throw him, he could die. He could die. [2:45:13] Did he? Easily. I don't know. I don't know what happened. It didn't look like he died, but he definitely got KO'd. [2:45:18] This dude hip-tossed him. Those ice fights, though, they're brutal, but the bouncing of the head off the glass. Watch this. [2:45:24] Whoa. He bounced on his back, I think. Bro, his head hit the ground, son. Look at this. [2:45:29] 100% his head hit the ground. It's a good throw. His head hit the ground 100%. Yeah, that's not good.

[2:45:34] Boom. Right there. 100%. There's a bounce. Yeah, that's not good. Not good. Not good, dude. Yeah, that was a good throw. Good technique. I was just saying, it was a good throw. As a guy who appreciates... His positioning was perfect, dude. Really knew his shit. That's the thing. If you could teach a judo practitioner, you could teach a Carl Parisian or a Yoel Romero or Hector Lombard. Well, Yoel Romero was a wrestler, but Hector Lombard, he was a jiu-jitsu champion from Cuba. Teach a guy like that how to fight in hockey games, you're in fucking trouble, son. Yeah, buddy. Don't let him grab ahold of your shit. [2:46:04] I'm sure he's got amazing balance because every judoka has insane balance. You have to be able to, like, rotate your weight, transfer your weight at the split-second intervals. And you've got to be able to manipulate another person's body and weight and the kind of strength that you would have. Slam someone on the ice like that. Oof. [2:46:21] Well, that's when it's over, though. That's the only rule of hockey, right? If you're down, it's out. [2:46:24] Is that the rule? You can't. Your fight's over when they go down. Yeah, you can't fucking. You can't hit him when he's down. Aren't they doing like a whole fight league where they like a hockey fight thing? I feel like the Russians have that, like a hockey fight thing. Russians have people fighting in cars. Yeah. Have you seen the car fights? No, dude. You buckled up in a seatbelt? Oh, I have seen this. Yeah, yeah. They just start beating the fucking shit out of each other. That is insane. It's so insane, dude. It's so insane. Yeah, these guys, right? Yeah, this is exactly right. There's just ice fights. Oh, my God. [2:46:54] crazy so they have MMA gloves on they're fighting on ice this is nuts dude [2:46:59] This is – oh, spinning back fist. It's closer to your basketball court thing though. There's no wall. Yeah. No, pretty good idea. Except the whole – Can't go down on the ground. The whole skate thing is nonsense. Like the whole – why are you limiting people's movement?

[2:47:13] Yeah, but it is so much harder to fight on ice. Oh, yeah. It's fucking so hard. Well, also, it's such a factor that if you're a really good skater but a shitty boxer, you could fuck a guy up. It's probably better than you. For sure. Because he's not going to know how to balance himself when he's transferring weight. You could just kind of pop, pop, pop him, and he won't be able to do anything about it. He could keep it together and just gently pop him. [2:47:35] Stumbling all over the place. It's just a dumb way to fight. Ice fights. [2:47:40] Ice fights, baby. It is weird, though, that hockey allows fights. [2:47:44] I love it. It's weird. Yeah. It's weird that there's like one sport, like, eh. It's tradition. It's tradition. [2:47:50] Weird. I know, but I do think also because the brutality of the fights wouldn't be as gruesome as that of... [2:47:57] NBA NFL you know right with Brown so they I think they factor in the fact that it's like these sites don't really last long they get a couple shots it's usually nobody gets hurt and they usually break it up pretty quickly yeah when the refs can sneak in they will and they will. [2:48:09] Yeah. I love it. I think it's such a cool part of the sport. It's a great part of the sport. Without that, people are going to hate it. Bare knuckles. There's bare knuckle ice fights, dude. Of course they did. Of course they did. With the helmets on. The helmets are smart, honestly. Because when you get KO'd and your head bounces off the ground, you really need that helmet. But you could also break the fucking shit out of your hand on that helmet. Oh, they are for sure. For sure. Yeah, that's a terrible way to break your hand. Bare knuckle ice fights. Sponsored by Buffalo Wild Wings. Sponsored by Pfizer. Yeah. [2:48:39] brain damage? Does it make you depressed? Try taking Zolidans. Zolidans will figure everything out for you.

[2:48:48] Yeah. [2:48:50] We live in some weird times, my friend. We really do. [2:48:54] Well, we're trying our best. Yeah. We're trying our best in a totally fucked up time. I do think we're going to see a swing. [2:49:02] Which way? I think things are going to even out a little bit and get a little bit calmer. I think people – it's so chaotic. Well, I hope so. I hope cooler heads prevail. Because we're in a bad way. But there's a lot of people, unfortunately, in this country that don't see a bright future for themselves. And this is also part of the problem with the narratives that we're being fed on social media is that they start looking at their economic future and it looks very bleak. And they want to point a finger at someone like, somebody fucked me. Like, why are these people – there's a few people that have all this money. [2:49:32] And this is one of the things one of them CEOs was talking about on a podcast that – like – [2:49:38] That they have to be really careful because like once AI does happen, like people are going to come for them. Oh, yeah. The people are going to like – [2:49:47] Did you see what happened in Nepal? [2:49:49] They took over the whole government. [2:49:51] They overthrew it. They overthrew the government. And they voted in a new leader on Discord. [2:49:57] That's how they voted in their new leader. Wow. They took over the government because the government was trying to impose rules on what they could post online, what they could see online, and the young people had – [2:50:08] enough they were like no and they're like e fucking enough and it was an actual overthrowing of the government which i do not know if it was orchestrated by an intelligence agency that's the problem could be i used to think what a great story that's so cool then i met mike benz and he's like no usaid has been funding these things for years like what

[2:50:28] No. Yes. [2:50:31] He was saying USA is for things that are too dirty for the CIA. So they farm it off to these NGOs. Sure. [2:50:38] Government officials had to leave their parliament building by helicopter. Whoa! The chaos is so much on the floor. Bro! That's awesome. They're hanging on to helicopters. That's crazy. [2:50:49] Yeah, I haven't watched a lot of the videos. There's a guy who I think he was randomly traveling on motorcycle through there while this was happening. He's just sort of stayed that and he keeps filming like on the ground. It is so nuts. Imagine like, look, we can get you out here, but we don't have time to get you in the helicopter. They're at the door. Just put this fucking thing between your legs and hang on. Do you have gloves? Do you have gloves? [2:51:10] Hang on. Is he in Kathmandu? By the way, how long do you think you could hang on to that without a strap? [2:51:16] Zero seconds? Not a long time. Like zero seconds? Yeah, that's going to be tough. That's a wire. Yeah, that's tough. That's a nylon wire. Nepal is burning. [2:51:25] Wow. [2:51:27] The real story behind – go back. What was that? Oh, shit. [2:51:30] Which one was it? I don't know if I can do that. Yeah. Nepal Gen Z protest. The real story behind the uprising connecting the dots. [2:51:39] Look, everyone's got their camera out. Some people have masks on. Jesus Christ, man. We live in the dumbest of times and the wildest of times. The mask thing. It's like every time I see someone with a mask on, I'm like, you've got to stop. You've got to stop. They're everywhere. I still see them everywhere. But it's a green light for idiots. It's a green light for idiots.

[2:52:01] to just also be able to commit crimes. [2:52:04] Because you're allowing people to cover their face, which used to be a red light. I know. Like if you go into a bank with a mask on in the past, it was like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. This guy's got a mask on. Everybody got their guns out. [2:52:15] Now it's normal. Normal to see it by this guy, this fully masked guy. [2:52:20] My buddy Sean sent me a video of a guy on his block, their security camera. Broad daylight, middle of the day, getting groceries out of his car. [2:52:28] With his kid and his wife. Guy runs up to him with a gun. [2:52:32] Robs him of his watch. Oh, Jesus. Broad daylight. Fully masked up. Where was this at? In L.A. [2:52:38] Oh, my God. In the valley. The video's wild, dude. The wife comes out. He points the gun right at the wife. Oh, my God. And, I mean, doesn't shoot anybody. Thank God the kids are over. Everything was safe. But he goes, take it off. You can hear the audio. He goes, take it off. [2:52:52] And he takes his watch off pretty quickly, gives it to him, and he gets in his car, and they speed away. And I was like, this wasn't cruising through the neighborhood seeing a guy unloading his car. They saw him at the grocery store, clocked it, and we're like, we're following that guy. No, they do that all the time to people. We're following that guy home. [2:53:04] That's how we say circle the block. If he gets caught, he'll be out of jail. Yeah. No cash bail. They're never going to catch him. The car was stolen. Even if he gets caught. It doesn't matter. They'll let him out. [2:53:13] Yeah, it's crazy. What is that about? I, dude... [2:53:15] Like if I wanted to destroy society, that's how I would do it. I just allow – I'm not saying that that's why they do it. But if I wanted to destroy society, I would just say, listen, the way to combat all this inequality in the world is whenever someone gets arrested, you just let them go. Just let them go. Because otherwise you're racist. Like, oh, okay. Just let them go. Like let violent criminals back on the streets. No.

[2:53:37] None of these people ever have any solution for how to make the places where these people grow up less violent. [2:53:45] Zero. Zero discussion about it. [2:53:48] No talk about it. Right. They just think that there's systemic racism, and so that's why people get arrested. Like, okay. Instead of trying to fix it. [2:53:57] And then... [2:53:58] The way people can gaslight [2:54:02] Other people's behavior. [2:54:03] in order to find some sort of a way of not giving the people on the other side a win. One of the craziest conversations I saw people have online in one of those cable talk shows was, [2:54:15] was, uh, [2:54:18] They were having a conversation about why this guy would shoot Charlie Kirk. [2:54:24] And the angle they were taking was that he was in a relationship, a loving, amazing relationship with another man who was a trans woman. Charlie Kirk was? No, no, no. The guy was the shooter. Oh, I was like, what the fuck? The guy was the shooter. Oh, right. [2:54:37] Is that true? That's why, yeah, allegedly. And that's why Charlie Kirk's words hurt so much that he had to take action. Like gaslighting and justifying... [2:54:48] An assassination. Yeah. Because this guy was saying mean things about trans people. Like, don't listen. Yeah. Don't listen. Did he say mean things about trans people, by the way? That's the other thing. Well, he definitely said that they were not really women. Yeah. Right? Which I don't think is mean because it's biologically accurate. It's just insensitive to people who want you to go along with it. Right. That's what it is. I just don't follow the man enough. I don't know anything about. I saw clips. So that's all I kind of. That was my perspective was watching him do trolley clips online. I mean, the guy trolled a lot online.

[2:55:16] Yeah, well, he did a lot to get people riled up. Big time. Big time. A lot about DEI. That's one of the reasons why people think he's very problematic. [2:55:27] He's also said the civil rights bill... [2:55:32] But he had a really good point. He said it should be just a one-page thing. Instead of that, it should be a one-page thing that says it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of race, color, gender. [2:55:43] Ethnicity. Simple. Right. Which makes sense. Like, it should be illegal to do that. It is, correct? Yeah. [2:55:50] I mean... [2:55:51] But it's like you have all these conversations and some of them look – [2:55:56] Not so good out of context. And that's easy to do when a guy is 31 years old. If I had a podcast when I was 31, you think people hate me now. [2:56:08] Would have been way worse. It would have been way worse. Yeah, I would have said a lot of stupid shit. Oh, dude, I say dumb shit on our show every week. Well, that's the problem with having a comedy show too, though. It's like a comedy show, especially when you're talking to comedians. We're so used to talking normal. [2:56:22] to each other, just saying what's on our mind and saying, and saying things that we heard rather than worrying about how other people are going to feel. And when you do that publicly, people are like, you get to talk like that. This is crazy. You guys just said you'd suck each other's dicks for a few dollars. This is crazy. Yeah. But it's, [2:56:39] You're not allowed to do that in most jobs. Right. And this, I think, is the origin of all this FCC stuff. I think they wanted to keep it that way. I think they wanted to keep people kind of muted. No swearing. This is what father knows best. Tonight at 8 p.m., leave it to Beaver. There was all these stupid fucking shows that were like social programming. And they were designed to keep people calm and complacent because we had dealt with 5,000 years of people being murderous barbarians.

[2:57:09] Once they got the chance to broadcast things on TV, they just broadcast this bullshit version of a human being, and we all just accepted that that's how people were. And the only way they could do that is to limit what you're allowed to talk about, limit the language you're allowed to use, and have a bunch of stupid commercials jammed in there every 15 minutes or whatever it is to make you feel stupid. [2:57:32] Just keep shoving that down your throat. And it works. Until you die. Drink your fucking Ovaltine. [2:57:38] Yeah, and stay away from saturated fat. [2:57:41] And that's what they did forever. And – [2:57:45] Now people are kind of waking up that that's dumb. [2:57:47] And I think that's part of this Jimmy Kimmel thing is like why – it would outrage – one of the things that outrages young people in particular and also comics but is that – [2:57:59] We live in a time where you can have a show like this, right, where there's no one has talked to us before we did this. No one's going to talk to us after this. [2:58:08] If they do, I don't listen. [2:58:10] We just say what we think, and you put it out there. Right. [2:58:13] Imagine if the government had to get involved. Andrew Santino and Joe Rogan's vile comments. We're going to remove them from the internet. According to who? So the young people go, who the fuck is that guy? It's like Conor McGregor and Jeremy Stevens. Who the fuck is that guy? Who the fuck is that guy? Because that's what it's like. It's like, who are you? And people are just waking up. There's an organization that can tell you what you can say on TV while you have YouTube?

[2:58:43] Why do you have X while you have fucking literal Nazis who are posting videos every day? And that's okay, and that can have 24 million views. But this talk show that has... [2:58:55] What was the 18 to 34 of the Jimmy Kimmel show? That was what was also crazy. Yeah. Not good. No, the numbers were pretty low. Pretty low. But all late night in TV is low. All late night is low. Because it's a limited format. He would be way better off if he had an internet show. 100%. 100%. Just him, do whatever the fuck he wants. He'd probably make more money, especially now, which is probably one of the reasons why they wanted to bring him back. [2:59:25] guy on our side 100 yeah otherwise he flies free they fired him and then he got paid out or if he his lawyers made a deal like look buy him out we're done because i think he only had till the end of the year before they were going to renegotiate a contract anyway i didn't know that i think so that's what i read today but there's so much misinformation yeah who knows what it is but i'm gonna need to see some emails i'm gonna need to see some text messages i want to know what the [2:59:55] not, or we put him back on the air, and you guys shut the fuck up, which seems to be what's kind of happening. But [3:00:02] Anybody that's like in support of it, it's like understand where that goes, even if he's incorrect. If he's incorrect, people should vote with their viewership. OK, if you're upset at him that he got that incorrect or that he's politically biased, don't watch anymore. And plenty of people will watch and let the market decide.

[3:00:20] Don't let the government step in and people in the government call you talentless and vile and all these different things. Like, settle down. It is so funny how he's like, he has no talent. You're like, well, I mean, yeah. He's been on TV for 50 years. Objectively, he's talented. That's not even enough. What does that mean? He's been on the radio and he's been on TV for like 100 years. What are you talking about? He's quite talented. He's my age. He's a dinosaur. He's been on TV forever. Like, this is crazy. Yeah. [3:00:49] And he's not Hitler, you know, and neither was Charlie Kirk, you know, and this is where we're lost. Like there's real monsters in the world. I watched a video today that I shouldn't have watched, and it was a video from Gaza where they found these three men that they suspected of – [3:01:08] of doing something or sharing information with Israel and they gunned him down on the street, colluding with Israel in some way. And they, the video was, it was, [3:01:19] horrific. They have these guys blindfolded. They kicked him in the back, face down, and just gunned him down in front of everybody. There's a large crowd of people watching, and they're all filming. Gross. And it's fucking horrific, man. It's horrific. [3:01:34] It's... [3:01:35] So rough to watch. Like, that's going on right now at the same time as this stupid fucking argument. [3:01:42] You know, there's so many things we should be paying attention to. There's so many things that are just absolutely insane in the world right now. And we're focused on this one thing as if this is the end of the world.

[3:01:55] There's a giant... [3:01:56] Something headed our way that many of these wacko conspiracy theorists that I follow think is a UFO. There's that one that some people think it's a comet and that Avi Loeb guy from Harvard, he doesn't think it's a comet. [3:02:11] I think it's the UFO. [3:02:12] And he thinks it's some sort of an intergalactic spaceship thing. [3:02:16] that's traveling from somewhere else. Come on down. It's going to come near us. Come on down. And then there's a bigger one behind it. There's a new one that they just discovered very recently. That's the other yacht. [3:02:24] That's the other space yacht He got expelled from Space Russia Have to run They're trying to take away a spaceship We will shoot your yacht into space Did you see that orb? I sent it to Jamie [3:02:39] So there's this... [3:02:40] orb that they apparently have carbon dated and this orb that has all these weird writings on it. It's very strange looking. It's made out of some... [3:02:50] Some alloy of aluminum that's three times stronger than military-grade aluminum. [3:02:56] Bugusmere. [3:03:00] labeled or it got dated to 12,560 years old. Holy shit. Yeah. So it's straight from a radiocarbon lab report dated September 19, 2025. So look at that thing. Look at the drawings on it. Like if this thing's actually 12,000 plus years old and – [3:03:20] It has these inscriptions on it that looks like this very strange language. It looks like a microchip. Yeah, and the center of it looks exactly like a microchip. And this is made out of some sort of an aluminum alloy that's three times stronger than military-grade aluminum.

[3:03:35] You know what those look like coming out of that microchip, that picture. Those little mushrooms. So let's go back, go up a little, Jimmy, right here. [3:03:43] The sample was treated with HCI, cleaned and burned at 900 degrees centigrade. [3:03:49] Celsius. [3:03:51] Graphite conversion measured by accelerator mass spectrometer compared against official oxalic acid standards. [3:04:01] plus or minus 30 years uncertainty. [3:04:06] So I sent this to my friend Jesse Michaels, who's got an awesome YouTube channel. You should check it out. It's called American Alchemy. And he is my go-to expert when anything is really fucking screwy online. Like, is this real? [3:04:21] I'll send them stuff like that. [3:04:23] So what he was telling me, though, that there is an issue – [3:04:28] with the actual dating of it. Okay, so the carbon dating is real and this is from Jesse. And we assume that we have an aluminum spear three times the hardness of modern aerospace aluminum, which was created 12,600 years ago at the start of the Younger Dryas. It's a full paradigm shift. [3:04:49] On another note, so this is what he was saying, though, that there was an issue with the way they analyzed it. [3:04:59] Uh... Okay. [3:05:03] I can't find it. But what he's saying is that the stuff that's on the outside, like the resin, which is what they're examining. So the resin that they're examining, there's an issue. Oh, here it is. Apparently, when you carbon date the petrochemical resin, you might get an artificially old date.

[3:05:23] Okay, so – [3:05:24] They're trying to figure this out. When the Georgia team tested it, it seemed legit. [3:05:30] Uh... [3:05:31] But – [3:05:31] There is an issue with modern petrochemical resin. Here, I'll send this to Jamie. [3:05:40] It's complicated because the problem with something like that is I want to believe in it so bad. I'm like, please, space people, come and fix us. Please, space people. Please. We're so retarded. Come get us. Come get us. Come get us before we elect Chelsea Handler for president. Come get us. Look at this. Look at this. So this is what – I just saw – I was reading a Reddit comment about it. [3:06:01] This is the report. Mm-hmm. It says analysis for the four aminifer samples. Mm-hmm. [3:06:08] The foraminifers, this, a single-celled organism. What? Not, yeah. Yeah. [3:06:15] What does that mean? [3:06:16] that they tested something different than what they're saying they tested, I think? That's what the comments were saying. I thought they were saying the resin. The resin is treated in an ultrasound bath for 30 minutes at room temperature. The sample is dried out and treated... [3:06:29] With 1NHCI to remove possible carbonates. After that, the sample was rinsed in ultra-pure water and dried at 105 degrees Celsius for accelerator mass spectrometry. Say that five times. Analysis. The clean samples were combusted at 900 degrees Celsius, evacuated, sealed ampoules, the presence of CuO. The resulting carbon dioxide is cryogenically purified from the other reaction product.

[3:06:59] Christ. Reaction products and catalytically converted to graphite using a method of da-da-da-da. Get to the point. Sample ratios were compared to the ratio measured from the oxalic acid one. The sample tested ratios were measured separately. The quoted uncalibrated dates have been given in radiocarbon years before 1950 years BP. [3:07:29] the half-life of 5,568 years. [3:07:35] I don't know what they just said. Do you? [3:07:37] I don't have a fucking clue. So it's a few thousand years old. So it says age years before present, 12,560. [3:07:46] If that's BP, if that's what they're saying by BP, that's 12,000 BC, not the Younger Dryas. That's quite a bit before that. [3:07:54] It was like 2,000 because the Younger Dryas is somewhere around 12,000 years ago. So that's 2,000 years before that. [3:08:01] Either way, [3:08:02] If that fucking thing really is 12,000 years old, what is that? What is that? And who's making something that's a beautiful sphere like that, that's three times harder than modern aluminum? And 12,000 years ago with no tools, no nothing, just... [3:08:20] Yeah. I don't like it. I don't like that shit. I like it a lot. Yeah, I know. It's creeps me the fuck out. Just comment. I'm telling you. Well, that's the thing. I think we...

[3:08:30] erroneously assume that what we have is stable. [3:08:33] Oh no, yeah, this is gone. [3:08:35] I think they thought it was stable back then, too, when they were building the pyramids. I was like, listen, we're always going to know who built these. [3:08:42] Real simple. Everyone's going to know you can do it with your mind. Everyone's going to know how to move the blocks. It's simple. We don't even have to write it down. Show them, Mike. Do the thing. [3:08:52] Very good. Very nice. They had some sort of sound machine that was rising. Yeah. Like raising these enormous stone blocks. Spinning it. He's like, stop showing off. Taking them down the mountain. [3:09:04] Vibrating. It's like moving in the air. Who knows what they did. But whatever they did, they get hit by a big rock from space. [3:09:12] and there was a few savages left and it took them about 5,000 years before they reinvented civilization. [3:09:23] And that could happen to us, bro. [3:09:24] It's going to. And that might be the one thing that makes us want to get the AI rolling. That's the sphere. [3:09:31] How cool is that? It's pretty cool. It looks like a helmet almost. They're saying that these dots are the resin, I suppose, right? Oh, okay. And I guess I'm asking in my head, like, why would we assume that that's going to be carbon material if it's... [3:09:43] If the whole thing is a metal sphere, why would we need organic material in it? Well, that's the only thing that they could test, but the problem is if you take that – [3:09:52] And someone made it 100 years ago and you stick it in old dirt and then you test that 12,000 year old dirt like Eureka. This ball is 12,000 years old. Step right up.

[3:10:04] And pay to see it. Just a little dirt. Also, here's the thing. If you can make something that's three times the hardness of modern – [3:10:14] aircraft aluminum. Couldn't you draw better half moons? Yeah, I should be able to. Why does that look so shitty? Yeah. [3:10:20] It's like a bad tattoo. Yeah. It looks like, yeah, like someone did it on the boardwalk in Atlantic City. You got it done when you were drunk. It's not a Borgata. You got some Chinese letters and they bleed out. This one says peace and hope. [3:10:32] And it's bleeding out, right? Like, that looks shitty. It doesn't look good. Like, if you saw something that was made today, like even the stuff that they made in Egypt, it was like way better. I also feel like I've only seen this angle of this thing. Yeah, they're not showing anything like the other side of it. That's true. Like, look at that thing in the left, the upper left. [3:10:49] That little half moon, the tip of the half moon on the top one, yeah. Look how shitty that one is. Yeah, they did a bad job. They did a bad job. It's like when you're a kid and you get a coloring book and you go outside the lines. Right outside the lines. Fucking loser. You fucked up. You fucked up. It's not usable. Yeah, that's weird, dude. [3:11:07] Weird. Weird. And look at the image, the close-up of the circuit board. [3:11:12] Yeah, it's a... That's crazy. It does look like a little microchip circuit board. But that also makes me think, like, now go fuck yourself, because now you're playing with me. Yeah, they're just fucking with us. Why are you making, like, a modern... [3:11:23] version of it. [3:11:24] Why does it have that fake Mona Lisa in that thread? I'm just looking at the comments. People are talking all sorts of shit. That's that fake Mona Lisa. [3:11:31] Yeah. [3:11:32] Talking all sorts of shit. Do you know that one? Yeah, that's a phony movie. Oh, you gotta pee.

[3:11:37] You gotta pee right now? I gotta piss like a racehorse. I knew. I could tell. You could see it in my eye? I could tell when a man starts wiggling in his chair. You gotta go. He's gotta piss. I could tell that feeling. You're like, uh... I drank three fucking cups of coffee and then missed like an idiot. Oh, that's not good. [3:11:49] Should we wrap it up? Let's do it. Let's do it. My man, your special. White Noise. Available now. White Noise on Hulu. I heard it's Hularious. No, fuck you. It says it. It says it, bro. I'm just trying to help you. When we went to New York and Burr was like, do you see this fucking shit? And I looked up and I was like, what is that? Hularious. He's like, this is the name they're doing for us. I was like, well, what are you going to do? Whatever. Special is good. Go watch it. What's good that they're doing it, though, Hulu's put out a lot of specials. They put out Burr's special, your special. Did they do one with Gaffigan as well? [3:12:19] Gaffigan, Sebastian's coming. Sebastian, nice. That's great. Yeah, they've got some really good ones. [3:12:23] Listen, the more the better. Yeah, man. Yeah. The more streaming specials, the more competition there is for, you know. It's better for all of us. It's better for comics. Yeah. For sure. And then maybe coming soon, the Jimmy Kimmel Show to Hulu. It'll be hilarious. It'll be hilarious. [3:12:39] All right, my brother. I love you to death. Love you, man. How long have you stayed in town? [3:12:43] I'm going to kill Tony tonight. Are you here tomorrow? I've got to leave tomorrow. Shut the fuck up. I've got to go. I've got a show tomorrow. I know I've got to go. Do you have to? I do. All right. Next time. Bye, everybody. Bye.

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